Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Apr 2013 11:21 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Nokia has posted its quarterly results for the first quarter of 2013, and just like the quarters that came before, there's not a whole lot of good news in there. The rise in Lumia sales still can't even dream of making up for the sales drop in Symbian phones, and when broken down in versions, the sales figures for Windows Phone 8 Lumias in particular are very disappointing. In North America, Nokia is getting slaughtered.
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RE[5]: Size matters
by Nelson on Thu 18th Apr 2013 18:08 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Size matters"
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

I'm not really spinning much of anything, because even when spun, it doesnt really make much of a difference besides in a larger sense. It only serves to provide a sense of direction and an overall trend.

I'm not making excuses or apologizing for Nokia's very serious problems.

Yes. Nokia sales will always look terrible if you compare them to what they used to sell, because its been a huge fall. That doesn't mean that Nokia's Lumia sales when viewed in isolation are terrible, only modest and need improvement.

What happens when Nokia moves on to 7 million, then 10, then 12 million phones a quarter? Pretty soon it starts to make a difference, and being able to see these trends early is whats important.

I don't quite understan the outrage some people seem to have with me trying to provide an assessment from a different angle. Its no longer objective, people on OSNews and other places irrationally want Nokia to fail. In fact, they enjoy the fact that Nokia is failing and that people are losing their jobs and livelihoods.

I never understood the blood sport, but I digress.

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RE[6]: Size matters
by adkilla on Thu 18th Apr 2013 20:10 in reply to "RE[5]: Size matters"
adkilla Member since:
2005-07-07

I'm not really spinning much of anything, because even when spun, it doesn't really make much of a difference besides in a larger sense. It only serves to provide a sense of direction and an overall trend.


Come again?

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RE[7]: Size matters
by tylerdurden on Fri 19th Apr 2013 18:01 in reply to "RE[6]: Size matters"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

glorious, isn't it? ;-)

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RE[7]: Size matters
by Nelson on Sun 21st Apr 2013 15:49 in reply to "RE[6]: Size matters"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

"I'm not really spinning much of anything, because even when spun, it doesn't really make much of a difference besides in a larger sense. It only serves to provide a sense of direction and an overall trend.


Come again?
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My point being that I'm accused of spinning numbers that make no material difference in a long run market share sense.

I know Nokia has much to do with regards to volume and marketshare -- but I'm not making excuses for that, or claiming that their numbers today or over this past year do much to ameliorate that difficulty.

All I'm saying is that these numbers show an encouraging momentum, which if persisted, could turn into good news down the line.

I think I've stressed this point enough, and I've been right on Nokia a hell of a lot more than anyone else on this website.

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