Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 19th Apr 2013 14:09 UTC
Apple "All of those questions, messages, and stern commands that people have been whispering to Siri are stored on Apple servers for up to two years, Wired can now report. Yesterday, we raised concerns about some fuzzy disclosures in Siri's privacy policy. After our story ran, Apple spokeswoman Trudy Muller called to explain Apple's policy, something privacy advocates have asking for." Apple cares about your privacy.
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RE[3]: Finally?
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 19th Apr 2013 15:24 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Finally?"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

I had no idea about the "finally". I'm pretty sure it refers to Siri being out for god knows how long and Apple never having disclosed this information. If you read the article, you'd know Wired wasn't the one who originally raised the concern - the American Civil Liberties Union was.

Don't jump to conclusions to feed your own preconceived notions of needing to protect poor, misunderstood, beleaguered Apple.

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RE[4]: Finally?
by jared_wilkes on Fri 19th Apr 2013 15:27 in reply to "RE[3]: Finally?"
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

An ACLU member blogged about it a year ago. I do not know if they put the question to Apple. (Are we suggesting that Apple has to account for all questions indirectly posed to them via blog? And, by the way, Thom, I read both the Wired article, the ACLU blog, and several other stories aggregating this today ahead of reading your link. I am being extremely kind in even suggesting that Ozer "indirectly asked" Apple in his blog post.) I do know a reporter did ask them yesterday, and he received an answer from Apple in less than 24 hours.

Edited 2013-04-19 15:37 UTC

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v RE[4]: Finally?
by Tony Swash on Fri 19th Apr 2013 18:26 in reply to "RE[3]: Finally?"
RE[5]: Finally?
by No it isnt on Fri 19th Apr 2013 20:40 in reply to "RE[4]: Finally?"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

So follow your own advice and stfu.

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RE[5]: Finally?
by BallmerKnowsBest on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 12:27 in reply to "RE[4]: Finally?"
BallmerKnowsBest Member since:
2008-06-02

When you are in a hole stop digging.

When someone makes a well deserved but gentle joke, possibly at your expense, join in the laughter.


Riiiiight, because it's not as if you have along history of trying to dismiss all criticism of Apple by resorting to lazy rhetoric, weaselly passive-aggression, and talking points copy-pasted from Gruber.

(See also: Poe's Law & The Boy who Cried Wolf)

Pompous bluster is the worst possible response.


That's pretty funny, coming from a person who has repeatedly used the phrase "Apple-phobe/Apple-phobia" in a pathetically transparent attempt to equate criticism of Apple with homophoia (see also: the fallacy of guilt by association).

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RE[4]: Finally?
by bassbeast on Sun 21st Apr 2013 22:10 in reply to "RE[3]: Finally?"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

Ya know, somebody really ought to do a study on the whole "treating corps like ballclubs" phenomena because I have noticed it has gone waaay up as have labeling anybody who isn't part of the ballclub attitude as shills or haters and I really don't get it.

I mean I could understand it if they owned a shitload of stock or something but they don't, I might even be able to put it down to buyer's remorse, like those poor saps that got burnt by the Apple laptops with Nvidia GPUs but people will be just as insane-o when it comes to free software or companies like Google where they don't have a cent invested...so why? Why do they do that?

I like AMD CPUs (still think the bang for the buck can't be beat, not when I'm picking up Athlon triples that have 80% unlock rates for $45) and Asusrock boards and laptops, Like Win 7 but hate Win 8, like Samsung HDDs but hate Seagate, but if you feel differently about any of those...okay? It would be as silly for me to get upset because you feel differently as it would to get mad because you prefer tacos over fried chicken.

I don't know, maybe I'm just too damned old and aren't hip enough to get it or something but I have never understood why any article with the big three, Apple, Google, or MSFT, seem to have the fanboys come out in force to either "defend the company" or to tear it down because they are rooting for the other guy. all I can think of when i see this crap is that old Mel Brooks bit "All go to hell except cave 76!" because it seems just as pointless and stupid to me.

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RE[5]: Finally?
by Tony Swash on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 05:56 in reply to "RE[4]: Finally?"
Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

Ya know, somebody really ought to do a study on the whole "treating corps like ballclubs" phenomena because I have noticed it has gone waaay up as have labeling anybody who isn't part of the ballclub attitude as shills or haters and I really don't get it.

I mean I could understand it if they owned a shitload of stock or something but they don't, I might even be able to put it down to buyer's remorse, like those poor saps that got burnt by the Apple laptops with Nvidia GPUs but people will be just as insane-o when it comes to free software or companies like Google where they don't have a cent invested...so why? Why do they do that?

I like AMD CPUs (still think the bang for the buck can't be beat, not when I'm picking up Athlon triples that have 80% unlock rates for $45) and Asusrock boards and laptops, Like Win 7 but hate Win 8, like Samsung HDDs but hate Seagate, but if you feel differently about any of those...okay? It would be as silly for me to get upset because you feel differently as it would to get mad because you prefer tacos over fried chicken.

I don't know, maybe I'm just too damned old and aren't hip enough to get it or something but I have never understood why any article with the big three, Apple, Google, or MSFT, seem to have the fanboys come out in force to either "defend the company" or to tear it down because they are rooting for the other guy. all I can think of when i see this crap is that old Mel Brooks bit "All go to hell except cave 76!" because it seems just as pointless and stupid to me.


Frankly it's the rabid anti-fans that seem more inexplicable.

If someone likes a company and it's products I think defending it in public is an OK thing to do, especially when confronted with such shabby journalistic practices as the use of the word 'finally' in the article under discussion, which you will note I attacked with some fairly gently sarcasm.

Compare my comment to, for example, that of Curio's where in response he actually shouts out in capital letters that Apple are " controlling FASCIST, NAZI, JACKBOOTED, thugs", presumably because of the way they administer the App store or perhaps because they won't let Flash run on their devices. Don't you think that such a comment is more weird, more disturbing and more worthy of counter-comment than my relatively restrained 'fandom'?

If Curios bizzare anti-Apple rage was a one off then it would be just the ravings of nut job but such hyperbolic comments about mostly, but not exclusively, Apple are all too common and are often left un-critiqured. I think criticising a company or a product or a practice in the tech world is just fine as long as it is done in a reasonably rational way, perhaps in a way that teases out the issues in an interesting fashion or offers up a different analysis or data for consideration. But when people start frothing at the mouth about something being 'evil' or worse than the Nazis of whatever then I think they should be called out about their poisonous and idiotic rhetoric.

Edited 2013-04-22 06:01 UTC

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