Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 19th Apr 2013 14:09 UTC
Apple "All of those questions, messages, and stern commands that people have been whispering to Siri are stored on Apple servers for up to two years, Wired can now report. Yesterday, we raised concerns about some fuzzy disclosures in Siri's privacy policy. After our story ran, Apple spokeswoman Trudy Muller called to explain Apple's policy, something privacy advocates have asking for." Apple cares about your privacy.
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RE[2]: Finally?
by Tony Swash on Fri 19th Apr 2013 19:22 UTC in reply to "RE: Finally?"
Tony Swash
Member since:
2009-08-22

Swash-Rinse-Repeat!

Oh joy, how novel. The captain of the Apple business practice's sanitation squad has some input on this (every)matter.

And who cares that you've (and other mindless fanbois) signed-on to some wanker's notion of the proper use of the word FINALLY within the context of Apple and all their dubious dealings?

FINALLY, first pull thyne head from thyne own ass before presuming you've the sack to instruct others on how to do so.

Swash-Rinse-Repeat! ad nauseum...


I guess the humour bypass is more common than I thought. The reference in my original comment was to the long standing series of posts on the Daring Fireball site mocking the use of the word 'finally' in reports about Apple. The reason that usage is worthy of being mocked is that it is usually an example of lazy journalism, by inserting the word 'finally' in a headline it implies that Apple have been dragging their feet about something or resisting something, even though there is often no evidence of that, and thus a spurious but click worthy headline is created.

Hence my mocking comment about the use of the word 'finally' in relation to information about Siri data retention which, it appears, Apple were first directly asked about a day or so ago and to which they responded with the requested information within 24 hours. Using the word 'finally' in relation to that seems mock worthy.

You will note that explaining a joke kills the humour ;)

No doubt Thom or someone else will now ferret away to find some forensic evidence that 'proves' that Apple have indeed resisted in some way the revelation of the details of Siri data retention and thus proffer a defence of the word 'finally'.

Rearrange the words 'teacup, 'in', 'a' and 'storm' to suit.

Edited 2013-04-19 19:23 UTC

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RE[3]: Finally?
by curio on Sat 20th Apr 2013 19:45 in reply to "RE[2]: Finally?"
curio Member since:
2010-05-03

You've rightly identified the "wanker" as John Gruber, of Daring Fireball, (thank you very much), but the question was "who cares(beside other mindless fanbois)?".

A joke? Hardly. It's a new-ish control mechanism that's surfaced in recent years on blogs and in their forums.
The pundit/writer enables his duller parroting fans (those with the lowest brain to shite ratios, who can't think for themselves) a means by which to disqualify a negative argument simply by their opposition's use of this or that word or term.
Using FINALLY in the context of Apple (here)is supposed to negate the whole argument that follows by subterfuge, while at the same time the pundit/writer/wanker (Gruber) is promoted by being quoted as some preeminent authority, couched in this instance as humor.

As to your last point on forensic evidence of Apple's resistance where the word finally is unimpeachably appropriate.

When, FINALLY, is Apple going to pass full ownership rights on to the purchasers of their bought and paid for products? Instead of acting the controlling FASCIST, NAZI, JACKBOOTED, thugs that their actions over the years have proven they most certainly are.

Note: FASCIST, NAZI and JACKBOOT are all used in various venues within this same mechanism.

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RE[4]: Finally?
by Tony Swash on Sun 21st Apr 2013 10:19 in reply to "RE[3]: Finally?"
Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

When, FINALLY, is Apple going to pass full ownership rights on to the purchasers of their bought and paid for products? Instead of acting the controlling FASCIST, NAZI, JACKBOOTED, thugs that their actions over the years have proven they most certainly are.

Note: FASCIST, NAZI and JACKBOOT are all used in various venues within this same mechanism.


That's a really, really bonkers thing to say.

What cannot you do with your Apple device that you want to do but are prevented from doing by Apple?

Why does preventing you from doing these things amount to behaviour so heinous that it compares to one of the most brutal and murderous movements in history?

It makes no sense to me.

As to the mocking of the use of the word 'finally', it is an attack on cheap and lazy journalism. It's use in headlines is often an attempt to inject some drama and controversy in to what would be otherwise a fairly bland non-story. It's low quality journalism designed to attract attention and clicks. It should be attacked and mocked.

The use of 'finally' is becoming as prevalent, and is as bad, as the gratuitous use of question marks in headlines, another awful journalistic practice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines

The problem with Apple phobics like yourself (and the use of the word phobic is appropriate I think for someone who actually thinks a software management system is somehow equivalent to the perpetrators of the Holocaust) is that you don't care about journalistic standards as long as the bad journalism is attacking Apple. Shame on you.

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