Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 22:35 UTC
Apple "Apple just posted its hotly-anticipated Q2 2013 earnings, and the company posted a profit of $9.5b on revenues of $43.6b, compared to $11.6b in profit on $39.2b in revenue this quarter last year and $13.1b in profit on $54.5b in revenue last quarter. That's right in line with the company's guidance from last quarter. Most importantly, iPhone sales are fairly flat year-over-year. Apple sold 37.04 million in Q2 2013 versus last year's 35.1 million, a modest growth of seven percent. iPad sales for the quarter were 19.5 million, up a massive 65 percent from last year's 11.8 million, but the average selling price (ASP) dropped fairly steeply year-over-year, likely due to the introduction of the cheaper iPad mini."
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RE: It's a funny old world
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 24th Apr 2013 19:04 UTC in reply to "It's a funny old world"
Bill Shooter of Bul
Member since:
2006-07-14

The prolific use of Apple laptops by qualified techies in all industries should point to the fact that the company isn't just about selling dumbed down products.


I beg to differ. OSX is getting dumber with each release. OSX isn't the awesome product of yesteryear. IMHO, Linux has improved to the point where techys don't need OSX to babysit them, and actually is a real hindrance to getting work done. There are a number of people that buy OSX just to put linux on it. I kind of understand that.

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RE[2]: It's a funny old world
by tony on Wed 24th Apr 2013 19:16 in reply to "RE: It's a funny old world"
tony Member since:
2005-07-06

"The prolific use of Apple laptops by qualified techies in all industries should point to the fact that the company isn't just about selling dumbed down products.


I beg to differ. OSX is getting dumber with each release. OSX isn't the awesome product of yesteryear. IMHO, Linux has improved to the point where techys don't need OSX to babysit them, and actually is a real hindrance to getting work done. There are a number of people that buy OSX just to put linux on it. I kind of understand that.
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I beg to differ-differ. If that was true about Linux, techs would be using Linux on their laptops more than they are now, which is rare. And Macs don't hinder anything for me, it actually makes things really easy and seamless. The backup function in particular (Time Machine) makes it a breeze.

And if you do anything multi-media, the workflow is often obnoxious or non-existent. Even the Linux Action Show can't do their full show production workflow in Linux (at least the last I heard, about 9 months ago). To say nothing about mic drivers, mixer board drivers, and video editing is a joke (and a breeze on a Mac).

I've got Linux on my Mac laptop, but in a VM to do webapp development.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

I think you and I have different ideas of who techs are. Hint: mine are not multimedia masters.

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RE[2]: It's a funny old world
by moondevil on Wed 24th Apr 2013 20:31 in reply to "RE: It's a funny old world"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Apple was only selling OS X UNIX roots to get developers onboard.

Similar to when they were not sure if Java or Objective-C should be the way to go.

Now they have a stable position on the market and are free to model OS X and iOS to be as they feel like it.

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RE[2]: It's a funny old world
by leos on Wed 24th Apr 2013 20:38 in reply to "RE: It's a funny old world"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

"The prolific use of Apple laptops by qualified techies in all industries should point to the fact that the company isn't just about selling dumbed down products.


I beg to differ. OSX is getting dumber with each release. OSX isn't the awesome product of yesteryear. IMHO, Linux has improved to the point where techys don't need OSX to babysit them, and actually is a real hindrance to getting work done. There are a number of people that buy OSX just to put linux on it. I kind of understand that.
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Name one thing that you can't do in OSX now that you could do before. Nothing about OSX has gotten dumber.
Some of the apps on top has been updated, and some iOS features have been integrated, but nothing was taken away. You can still take advantage of the unixy goodness underneath while having an integrated notification center, chatting with iMessage, and getting stuff from the app store.

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RE[3]: It's a funny old world
by MOS6510 on Thu 25th Apr 2013 05:32 in reply to "RE[2]: It's a funny old world"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

I believe "dumber" is tech jargon for "easier" and "more user friendly".

It means you don't have to be very smart to use something, even "dumb" people can now too.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Ok, maybe dumb was a bit harsh. What annoys me with OS x, is the windowing interface and the state of included utilities. Darwin ports and Fink are pretty bad repositories, they rarely have the tool I'm looking for. It inhibits the way I want to use the computer. Even cygwin on windows is better in many cases. KDE on windows is in better shape, for God's sake! Security updates for Java and flash have scared me off as well. Windows seems to be better on that front, too.

It also kind of ticks me off how they haven't improved things that I really liked, and thus devs have abandoned products. Like dashboard. Why didn't they ever start pushing those as standalone desktop Widgets? They're pretty much dead now. No one really updates the ones I liked.

Are these normal user complaints? I'm guessing not. They're issues that I and others I know have with it.

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RE[2]: It's a funny old world
by tylerdurden on Thu 25th Apr 2013 00:39 in reply to "RE: It's a funny old world"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

There are a number of people that buy OSX just to put linux on it. I kind of understand that.



That strawman made such little sense that it's now lost in Oz looking for a brain...

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

No, its more of a true scotsman argument. If you don't agree with me, you must not be part of the "in" crowd. We're arguing about what technical people use. If you disagree with me, then we aren't talking about the same group of people. I mean, people who can upgrade windows are considered techy by some people. And in some sense they are, just not my sense.

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