Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 23rd Apr 2013 22:35 UTC
Apple "Apple just posted its hotly-anticipated Q2 2013 earnings, and the company posted a profit of $9.5b on revenues of $43.6b, compared to $11.6b in profit on $39.2b in revenue this quarter last year and $13.1b in profit on $54.5b in revenue last quarter. That's right in line with the company's guidance from last quarter. Most importantly, iPhone sales are fairly flat year-over-year. Apple sold 37.04 million in Q2 2013 versus last year's 35.1 million, a modest growth of seven percent. iPad sales for the quarter were 19.5 million, up a massive 65 percent from last year's 11.8 million, but the average selling price (ASP) dropped fairly steeply year-over-year, likely due to the introduction of the cheaper iPad mini."
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RE[7]: It's a funny old world
by MOS6510 on Thu 25th Apr 2013 19:11 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: It's a funny old world"
MOS6510
Member since:
2011-05-12

I guess there are a number of reason not to like Apple and OS X like the ones you named.

But it depends on who you are and what you want. With Apple stuff little goes wrong, because they make it hard for you to mess things up and if something does happen they'll help you out.

So it's ideal for people who either don't have any IT skills, don't have the time or just don't want to be bothered with it.

A number of OS X users I know are former Linux users and that includes me.

I still like Linux and like to fiddle around with it, but I don't want to use it as my main system.

I bought an iMac G5 in 2005 with Panther, I upgraded it to Tiger, to Leopard, bought a new iMac and did a system transfer, upgrade to Snow Leopard, upgrade to Lion, new iMac and system transfer and upgrade to Mountain Lion. No problems, it still works and you can still find stuff from the G5.

I've wasted many hours fixing my Linux system. Sometimes I disabled it myself, sometimes it was some software/system upgrade that left me with a crippled system. You learn a lot fixing it, but after a while you just want it to work. So I sacrifice some freedom and flexibility for something that just works.

But nothing stops me from also using a PC with Linux or Windows. I've been playing around with Windows 8 the last few weeks. My Linux PC just had a fresh install (because the previous install was messed up(...)).

The notion that Apple captures you in a walled garden is a bit extreme. You can walk out anytime you want.

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RE[8]: It's a funny old world
by Neolander on Thu 25th Apr 2013 20:06 in reply to "RE[7]: It's a funny old world"
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2010-03-08

My issue with this line of thinking is that Apple have shown that they don't need to assert as much control as they do today to provide a good user experience. Your iMac was pretty much as usable running Snow Leopard as it is running Mountain Lion, save for a small amount of interesting novelties like integrated notifications (instead of leaving those to the third-party Growl software, which was the de facto standard for these on previous releases of OSX).

Consequently, it is my impression that the ethical situation in the Apple world is worsening way faster than the usability situation is improving, counter to the view that walled gardens bring a major improvement on the usability front just by the virtue of existing.

Meanwhile, in the Linux world, things are slowly improving on the usability front. Or at least they are if you take care to pick reasonably conservative distros, like current releases of Linux Mint, which won't break your software and workflow every six months just for the fun of it.

Take the example of hardware support, which you mentioned previously: 5 years ago, sound and wireless support on Linux was highly unstable, whereas nowadays only exotic hardware won't work out of the box in this area. And while modern GPUs used to be totally unusable without using unreliable proprietary drivers, nowadays open source drivers have improved enough to provide an acceptable level of functionality on almost all hardware.

There are still things which are bad in the Linux world, such as system upgrades as you mention, but it is my understanding that overall, things are moving in the right direction. Again, that is when you don't fall easily for the cool-aid of developers that break working stuff for sake of hacking away something new, and stick with stable and well-tested system components.

Edited 2013-04-25 20:24 UTC

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RE[9]: It's a funny old world
by leos on Fri 26th Apr 2013 03:49 in reply to "RE[8]: It's a funny old world"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

My issue with this line of thinking is that Apple have shown that they don't need to assert as much control as they do today to provide a good user experience. Your iMac was pretty much as usable running Snow Leopard as it is running Mountain Lion,


You still haven't mentioned a single thing you could do with Snow Leopard that you can't do with Mountain Lion. Nothing was taken away. Things were added, and if you don't like those things don't use them.

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