Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th May 2013 18:06 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless This is the Nokia I remember. The company just unveiled the Nokia Asha 501, which has a completely new version of the Asha software platform. Fast, responsive, stunningly great and simple hardware, and an unbeatable price ($99!). It borrows a lot from MeeGo on the N9, and overall excites me infinitely more than their Lumia offerings. I want one of these so bad.
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And the main question is....
by moondevil on Thu 9th May 2013 18:53 UTC
moondevil
Member since:
2005-07-08

...who will be writing the J2ME apps for it.

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RE: And the main question is....
by wigry on Thu 9th May 2013 21:09 in reply to "And the main question is...."
wigry Member since:
2008-10-09

Even bigger question is support. If you take Android or iOS or even WP, then you have practically endless amount of developer experience in the web, there are lots of sample apps and libs and what all. With J2ME, you get Nokia SDK and couple of Q&A in the stackoverflow and thats about it. You have to figure everything out either yourself or try to get some communication out of Nokia.

S40 and J2ME is a lost art and very painful to develop, specially for not-so-hardcore developers trying to get their first game to the OVI store.

Have first hand experinece for the past 6 month as Nokia subcontractor but at least I had the whole Nokia S40 dev team at my fingertips if needed. Not so with any third party developer who tries to survive with internet alone.

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Yeah, I remember those days, but to be honest I tend to think that outside HTML stuff youth nowadays lacks serious coding skills.

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dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

J2me used to rule mobile app devement for good part of the decade. Finding developers with the experience shouldn't poise a problem, esp. in the projected target markets (where locals write for locals). The unsolved questikn is how classical J2ME frameworks optimised for candy bar key phones fit into new Asha fluid guis. If most gui.concepts that plug into it are indeed proprietary then the skill transferability could be limited.

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arsipaani Member since:
2010-06-13

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smarterphone

You mean scheme apps ?

I was reading some article that oulu team was responsible of this....
http://mobiili.fi/2013/05/09/nokian-asha-501-uutuus-oululaisten-kas...


I was wondering what they mean "learning new language"...

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Moochman Member since:
2005-07-06

That's... kind of awesome. ;) But also even less likely to gain wide developer support.

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Nokia also uses Scheme in Nokia Maps, but that doesn't mean they will make it ever available for external developers on their devices.

http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?jobId=5343381&viewJob=&trk=job_capjs

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RE: And the main question is....
by dsmogor on Fri 10th May 2013 20:25 in reply to "And the main question is...."
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

Does anybody know if any firm of background services is possible on the platform?

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wigry Member since:
2008-10-09

Not for regular developers. Nokia itself can develop background services but basically thats about it. You can have single foreground midlet active at any moment and they cannot go to background. If one midlet executes another midlet, the first one is killed before launching the other one. Two midlets can communicate with each other using Content Handler API but again the caller is killed and the responder is launched. Then the responder can send the reply back tho the initiator which terminates the second midlet and launces the first one. Now it is developers responsibility to detect, that the midlet was woken by CHAPI call and must restore state to where it was before. To user it seems that two midlets are running side-by-side but not really.

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