Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 7th Jun 2013 11:40 UTC
Legal This story is getting bigger and bigger. Even though most Americans probably already knew, it is now official: the United States government, through its National Security Agency, is collecting the communications and data of all American citizens, and of non-Americans using American services, through a wide collaboration with the large companies in technology, like Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook, and so on. Interestingly enough, the NSA itself, as well as the US government, have repeatedly and firmly denied this massive spying on Americans and non-Americans took place at all.
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US Monopoly on Data to End
by gfg233 on Fri 7th Jun 2013 13:04 UTC
gfg233
Member since:
2013-06-07

This is going to act as a wake up call to governments and populations around the world, the worst thing the government could have hoped for.

My prediction is that we are going to start seeing the localisation of data servers and services in China, Russia, the EU and the Middle East. Underground and open movements may also develop services such as email and networking championing privacy and civil liberties.

One last note is the silence of all of this from the US government, most notably Obama who was responsible for its expansion. Even the NYT have opined that his administration no longer have any credibility.

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RE: US Monopoly on Data to End
by WereCatf on Fri 7th Jun 2013 13:14 in reply to "US Monopoly on Data to End"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

This is going to act as a wake up call to governments and populations around the world, the worst thing the government could have hoped for.


No, it won't. There's plenty of cash to fill pockets with and plenty of pockets in need of filling -- a handful of people will voice their dissatisfaction, but that's all it'll amount to.

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gfg233 Member since:
2013-06-07

China already have it in the pipeline, including their own cloud computing network. Wouldn't be surprising at all if they knew what was going on.

Do you really think Middle Eastern countries are going to put up with this in the long run? No they won't.

Regarding the EU, one can only hope they are not going to put up with their citizens freely being spied on overseas, but perhaps I'm being too optimistic.

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Berend de Boer Member since:
2005-10-19

Wake up call? About 100 Senators and 435 representatives didn't see anything wrong with this.

Keep on dreaming. This is going to get much worse.

It's all to keep you safe right! So you don't get in the path of an exploding pressure cooker at a marathon, that kind of thing.

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Phloptical Member since:
2006-10-10

This is going to act as a wake up call to governments and populations around the world, the worst thing the government could have hoped for.

My prediction is that we are going to start seeing the localisation of data servers and services in China, Russia, the EU and the Middle East. Underground and open movements may also develop services such as email and networking championing privacy and civil liberties.

One last note is the silence of all of this from the US government, most notably Obama who was responsible for its expansion. Even the NYT have opined that his administration no longer have any credibility.


How and who is going to provide you access to those servers, and services from your house? AT&T? Verizon? Don't you get it, once you turn on your computer and open a connection to the internet (browser,email,service,etc.), you are being tracked. So unless some pirate underground internet provider springs up in the us, operating outside of gov't control....and good luck with that happening....Big Brother is watching you.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Don't you get it, once you turn on your computer and open a connection to the internet (browser,email,service,etc.), you are being tracked.


That's what encryption is for. I'm pretty sure even IF, and it's a huge if, NSA could break AES they couldn't do it in real time or in a reasonable time for it to be useful.

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