Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 8th Jun 2013 14:57 UTC
Legal And yes, the PRISM scandal is far, far from over. More and more information keeps leaking out, and the more gets out, the worse it gets. The companies involved have sent out official statements - often by mouth of their CEOs - and what's interesting is that not only are these official statements eerily similar to each other, using the same terms clearly designed by lawyers, they also directly contradict new reports from The New York Times. So, who is lying?
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by orfanum on Mon 10th Jun 2013 20:35 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: Re:"
orfanum
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2006-06-02

That's a great reply-many thanks for the clarification.

A lot of this was 'tackled' by Social Credit and other money reform systems, including those examined by Quakers in the UK In the 1920s, as well as by the German Silvio Gesell.

I say 'tackled' since Social Credit according to some views has/had an intrinsically anti-Semitic bent given its chief proponent was Major C H Douglas, and for that and other reasons the orthodox Left has usually dismissed it as a system of 'funny money'.

It was briefly reconsidered by sections of the Left in Britain in the 1970s in the face of the almost overpowering Oil Crisis coupled with the UK's industrial decline.

The most colourful character who promoted Social Credit was John Hargrave, who also saw that technology would bring unemployment aka leisure to most of the world's population, so that standard economic theory would no longer suffice. He additionally supported world government. Unfortunately he was also dismissed as a crank.

(edited for typing errors)

Edited 2013-06-10 20:42 UTC

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by woegjiub on Tue 11th Jun 2013 01:31 in reply to "RE[9]: Re:"
woegjiub Member since:
2008-11-25

Interesting. I had been thinking similarly for some time; work needs to be about either pursuing a passion (FOSS development, art, science, etc.), or attempting to access more "stuff" by gaining more than a baseline level of purchasing power.

The amount of talent wasted in pushing money around for the sake of making more money is just ridiculous nowadays.

None of these reforms are likely to occur any time soon though, due to the grip the capitalists (who have all of the money) have over public opinion.
Unemployment is going to rise, *which is not a bad thing; more time for personal projects to advance human culture and knowledge* - but people are convinced that it is. Insanity.

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