Linked by Howard Fosdick on Mon 24th Jun 2013 03:00 UTC
Linux I volunteer as tech support for a small organization. For years we relied on Ubuntu on our desktops, but the users didn't like it when Ubuntu switched to the Unity interface. This article tells about our search for a replacement and why we decided on Xfce running atop Linux Mint.
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ilovebeer
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2011-08-08

Based on the context of his whole comment, It seems pretty obvious to me that when he said "Linux is getting there", he meant "good enough to fulfill my needs".

What he actually said was, "Linux is getting there but it isn't there yet. In the meantime, MS is getting left behind in ever so many ways." That sure doesn't sound like he's referring to his needs, but rather in general as a blanket statement. Making the claim isn't good enough, make your case instead.

Anyway, the rest of his claims are pretty straightforward: Windows 7 is not very suitable for his needs. Since you're calling them unconvincing, I guess you know his needs better than he does?

...No, of course not. While he did reference his needs, he also makes sweeping comments. I suppose you thought ignoring that would lend more to your own comments. But, no.

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shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

Faffing about is all the things you have to do to get windows working in a half decent way, loading all the drivers and overcoming all the so called helpful things that MS do which frankly for anyone who uses OS News just gets in the way of doing your work.
Their so called helpful stuff like hiding essential directories, making you use more moue clicks to unmount a USB Stick etc etc etc.

IMHO, the more that MS do to effectively dumb down their system the more useless it becomes (OOTB) to the power user.
Why does a USB stick have its driver loaded 99 times out of a 100 and then on the 100th time, it fails and the only way to get it working again is to reboot the system?

As I said, Linux is getting there but it isn't quite there for MY needs. After all the topic of the article is relating to individual users needs. Don't get me wrong, I really like Linux. I've been using Unix since the late 1980's (Ultrix) and I first ran Slackware 1.1 all those years ago.
My main gripe is the usability of Gimp. Fix that and I might consider moving to it full time. No, I don't use Ubuntu, as personally, I find it unusable. I mostly use CentOS on my Linux systems.

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ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

Faffing about is all the things you have to do to get windows working in a half decent way, loading all the drivers and overcoming all the so called helpful things that MS do which frankly for anyone who uses OS News just gets in the way of doing your work.

I'll give you that there may be a person once every blue moon that has all kinds of troubles installing Windows. The same is true of Linux and probably every other os. But to suggest you have to jump through a bunch of hoops and do all this `extra work` to get Windows 7 working "half decent" for example, is utter nonsense.

Their so called helpful stuff like hiding essential directories, making you use more moue clicks to unmount a USB Stick etc etc etc.

It takes 2 mouse clicks and all of about 2 seconds to unmount a usb stick. It's pretty pathetic to complain about that.

IMHO, the more that MS do to effectively dumb down their system the more useless it becomes (OOTB) to the power user.

MS doesn't dumb down their OS, they just keep the more advanced stuff out of the way of newbie/novice users, which happens to be a good idea. "Power users" should have no problem finding what they need. I certainly don't so if you feel like you're going on a treasure hunt to find something, I would suggest you're more newbie/novice than power user.

Why does a USB stick have its driver loaded 99 times out of a 100 and then on the 100th time, it fails and the only way to get it working again is to reboot the system?

No clue, I've never experienced that problem. Perhaps the cause is flaky hardware - often the real blame for "Windows problems". A reboot probably isn't necessary, but maybe restarting a service is. If I ever have that issue, I'll post my findings.

As I said, Linux is getting there but it isn't quite there for MY needs. After all the topic of the article is relating to individual users needs. Don't get me wrong, I really like Linux. I've been using Unix since the late 1980's (Ultrix) and I first ran Slackware 1.1 all those years ago.
My main gripe is the usability of Gimp. Fix that and I might consider moving to it full time. No, I don't use Ubuntu, as personally, I find it unusable. I mostly use CentOS on my Linux systems.

I don't use Ubuntu either, or any other Windows wanna-be distro for that matter. In my opinion there isn't a Linux desktop that holds a candle to Windows so in the desktop realm, Linux is pretty much a joke. I do use Debian however and it works great for how I'm using it.

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rr7.num7 Member since:
2010-04-30

That sure doesn't sound like he's referring to his needs, but rather in general as a blanket statement. Making the claim isn't good enough, make your case instead.


Only if you ignore the rest of his comment. Reading it in context, it's clear he means Microsoft is getting farther from fulfilling his needs (which was really the point of his comment). I guess he doesn't have much love for Windows 8.

....No, of course not. While he did reference his needs, he also makes sweeping comments. I suppose you thought ignoring that would lend more to your own comments. But, no.


No, I didn't ignore anything. Quite the opposite, actually. I took the whole comment into account. He wrote a bit about his experience with those operating systems, and then a conclusion. Pretty standard practice.

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