Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 16th Jul 2013 22:42 UTC
Legal "A diverse coalition of 19 groups announced today a lawsuit against the United States government for 'an illegal and unconstitutional program of dragnet electronic surveillance', known as the Associational Tracking Program, which collects all telephone records handled by Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint in the US. The group, represented by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, aims to compel the government to inventory and disclose the records in its possession, to destroy them, and to immediately end the surveillance program."
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RE[4]: n/t
by Alfman on Wed 17th Jul 2013 14:56 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: n/t"
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"Come on, Snowden is shrilling..."

I really don't follow...?

Anyway my opinion is that the public does have a right to know what their government is doing and that the government working for the public does have a responsibility to disclose the scope of what they're doing, otherwise it can not be democracy. While I cannot know much about Snowden's moral character, without people like him democracy doesn't have a chance in hell at succeeding. The public will be forever in the dark, subjects of a government not under the control of the people.

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RE[5]: n/t
by Kochise on Wed 17th Jul 2013 17:54 in reply to "RE[4]: n/t"
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So, to sum it up : the USA and France, to begin with, are not democracies.

Recently in France, senators have voted not to disclose their personal fortune as a matter of transparency.

Since they are still getting public funds in wallets full of bills, without the necessity to explain what usage it is dedicated for, you can conclude whatever you want from this democracy.


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RE[6]: n/t
by Finalzone on Wed 17th Jul 2013 18:08 in reply to "RE[5]: n/t"
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Both France and USA are historically republic, never were fully democratic.

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