Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 17th Jul 2013 17:08 UTC
Apple "All three major Russian cellcos have stopped selling the iPhone, the most dramatic instance so far in a rising tide of operator backlash against Apple's tough contractual requirements. VimpelCom has severed its ties with the handset provider, following in the footsteps of MTS and MegaFon. VimpelCom says it has put Samsung at the top of its list of smartphones to promote under its BeeLine brand. According to PhoneArena, VimpelCom blamed 'draconian contracts' and 'harsh conditions [...] especially in the marketing department' for its decision to dump the iPhone and sign a new deal with Samsung." Apple's treatment of carriers has long been a sore point, however, carriers didn't have much choice. Now that the iPhone is by far no longer the only big money maker, carriers have more leverage.
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RE[3]: Marketing...
by BushLin on Wed 17th Jul 2013 21:36 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Marketing..."
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I gave some considered speculation on some speculation I considered less likely but you Sir are just encouraging re-enactments from Yes Minister.

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RE[4]: Marketing...
by orfanum on Wed 17th Jul 2013 22:02 in reply to "RE[3]: Marketing..."
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I do not think that we have the same understanding of the word 'considered'.

I don't need "Yes, Minister" (though you may continue to call me 'Sir' if you want).

It's a simple proposition: put up or shut up. If you are so sure of yourself, give me and everyone else something more credible, something verifiable. If not, have the sense if not the common decency to desist in making such assertions. Even FUD usually has some feasible basis in truth, that's how it works.

What you aver is more akin to a calumny.

And don't be like one of our ministers, instead respond to the point.


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RE[5]: Marketing...
by BushLin on Wed 17th Jul 2013 22:19 in reply to "RE[4]: Marketing..."
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Why do you insist? I thought I was amongst those with a least a little insight into the topic which they've commented on but if you must...

It is a fact that Apple control their software platform, it makes them unique in the mobile world and is seen as a boon for consumers to not have "crap-ware" loaded by default.

Therefore when a carrier complains of Apple's marketing requirements it seems more likely that they're talking about the money they'd have to invest in additional advertising featuring only an iPhone along with their services.

For the later, you have the major carriers of a very large nation all dropping Apple and publicly talking about a deal with Samsung. This nation happens to be Russia but this would prick my ears up wherever it was.

Now take your rude abrasive manner elsewhere, there's no need.

Edited 2013-07-17 22:19 UTC

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