Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 17th Jul 2013 17:08 UTC
Apple "All three major Russian cellcos have stopped selling the iPhone, the most dramatic instance so far in a rising tide of operator backlash against Apple's tough contractual requirements. VimpelCom has severed its ties with the handset provider, following in the footsteps of MTS and MegaFon. VimpelCom says it has put Samsung at the top of its list of smartphones to promote under its BeeLine brand. According to PhoneArena, VimpelCom blamed 'draconian contracts' and 'harsh conditions [...] especially in the marketing department' for its decision to dump the iPhone and sign a new deal with Samsung." Apple's treatment of carriers has long been a sore point, however, carriers didn't have much choice. Now that the iPhone is by far no longer the only big money maker, carriers have more leverage.
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RE[2]: Tides have turned...
by ricegf on Thu 18th Jul 2013 11:16 UTC in reply to "RE: Tides have turned..."
ricegf
Member since:
2007-04-25

You know that's mainly a U.S problem, right? I've always been able to buy a cheap phone from any store.


I've been able to buy any GSM phone I wanted to use with non-contract T-Mobile service in the USA for many years (T-Mobile uses the same radio bands as Europe, which helps). They even provided technical support for a problem I had with my N900.

The other three "major carriers", not so much.

So it surprises me that T-Mobile is still the smallest of the four.

Go figure.

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RE[3]: Tides have turned...
by darknexus on Thu 18th Jul 2013 13:05 in reply to "RE[2]: Tides have turned..."
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

So it surprises me that T-Mobile is still the smallest of the four.

Clearly you've not experienced the lack of coverage T-mobile has in a huge swath of this country. Their coverage map says one thing, but I've had T-mobile and their true coverage doesn't even come close and that's just for GSM. Their data network is worse. The hilarious part is that I've seen T-mobile stores in an area where they have no coverage at all. The phones get no service, even in the store and they wonder why nobody buys one. Yet they keep these stores open.
It's not hard to find an unlocked GSM phone that works on AT&T either, but they've got problems of their own. Their network is oversold to the point of collapse, so even in high coverage areas their service has become unreliable and that's putting it kindly. That leaves both our GSM carriers in problematic positions, and consumer choice does not work with our CDMA situation since most CDMA phones here use internal sims that absolutely must be activated by the carrier in order to work.

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RE[4]: Tides have turned...
by ricegf on Thu 18th Jul 2013 19:13 in reply to "RE[3]: Tides have turned..."
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

I wouldn't presume to debate you, as I have no references to coverage studies. I can say, howevere, that I've traveled to about 28 different continental states, and only had coverage issues in the farmland regions of Iowa. (I'm speaking of the past few years - in the early 2000's I had far more coverage issues, so much so that we switched to AT&T for several years until they covered the area we travel.)

Regardless of what you read on an Internet forum, though, every buyer should test coverage in the areas they frequent before committing to a carrier. T-Mobile has a program that enables you todo that cheaply and with no commitment. I suspect the others do as well.

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