Linked by Anonymous on Thu 18th Jul 2013 14:09 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless The decline continues for Nokia. While Lumia sales volume increased by 32% to 7.2 million during Q2, this was well short of the 8.1 million analysts expected would be sold. Meanwhile, smartphone sales are down 10.2 million units from Q2 2012, based solely on the death of Symbian. Did Nokia jump from a burning platform to a sinking ship? Or will the next Windows Phone update finally bring feature parity with Symbian? Note from Thom: Loads of new models, yet still not the turning point we are promised every time Nokia releases quarterly figures. I'm sure the next quarter, with the next new flagship, will turn it all around.
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Who cares anymore?
by MisterKat on Thu 18th Jul 2013 15:56 UTC
MisterKat
Member since:
2013-03-07

Seriously.

Nokia handsets, IMHO are well engineered but overpriced for what they are. The specifications just don't justify the cost.

Windows Phone flagship is Android mid-range.

Microsoft have blown it. The party's over. I bought into the 'dream', but have decided to cut my loses and return to Android.


With the handling of Surface (especially RT), XBone DRM and Technet it's obvious they haven't a clue and don't intend on getting one anytime soon.

I'm gone and I'm not coming back.

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RE: Who cares anymore?
by joekiser on Thu 18th Jul 2013 22:13 in reply to "Who cares anymore?"
joekiser Member since:
2005-06-30

Nokia still makes plenty of innovation happen in the S40/Asha market. I had an Asha 311 and the OS is sleek, responsive, and quite capable. It has come a long way since even two years ago. Supposedly the Asha 501 is an even bigger leap for the OS.

No idea about the smartphone division, from my brief time in the store the Lumia 521 seemed like the best entry-level smartphone for the price. Spending a lot of money on stupid phones is not my hobby, so I did not compare the higher-end phones.

My armchair CEO opinion is that NOK should have demanded exclusivity from Microsoft, and been put in charge of WP development.

BTW, the real story here, is that Windows Phone is now solidly third-place in smartphone sales. Get me Firefox for WP, FM radio and a QWERTY keyboard, and I may switch.

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RE[2]: Who cares anymore?
by ricegf on Fri 19th Jul 2013 01:19 in reply to "RE: Who cares anymore?"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

My armchair CEO opinion is that NOK should have demanded exclusivity from Microsoft, and been put in charge of WP development.


Actually, Mr. Elop wanted to get out of the smartphone software business, and just become a licensed maker of hardware platforms for Microsoft's products. He apparently felt that Nokia could never measure up to Microsoft's legendary quality.

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RE[2]: Who cares anymore?
by chithanh on Fri 19th Jul 2013 02:42 in reply to "RE: Who cares anymore?"
chithanh Member since:
2006-06-18

Supposedly the Asha 501 is an even bigger leap for the OS.

The technology for the Nokia 501 was brought in from the Smarterphone acquisition. Also, Ashas are doing worse than Lumias or Featurephones.

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RE[2]: Who cares anymore?
by ze_jerkface on Fri 19th Jul 2013 07:47 in reply to "RE: Who cares anymore?"
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

My armchair CEO opinion is that NOK should have demanded exclusivity from Microsoft, and been put in charge of WP development.


I'm of similar opinion and I think they should still rename it to Nokia OS.

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RE: Who cares anymore?
by dsmogor on Mon 22nd Jul 2013 05:31 in reply to "Who cares anymore?"
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

That's true (except for upcoming 1020) but on the lower end the situation is actually reverse.
Nokias surges are driven by sales of low end devices like 520 in countries like Poland. Why is that? BC 520 still having to meet minimum Win8 HW reqs (e.g. featuring premium S4 CPU) is a hell of a deal so carriers jump on it in droves?
Why is it so cost effective? No magic here, Nokia is simply financing it, hence the hit. The point is the more successful devices like 520 become the more money is lost. Only the moore law can come to help in some (possibly distant) future, but that's also leaves Nokia on Qualcomm's mercy.

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