Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Jul 2013 22:12 UTC
Microsoft The Verge, reporting that Microsoft lost almost a billion dollars with Surface RT, in this quarter alone. "At the end of the day, though, it looks like Microsoft just made too many Surface RT tablets - we heard late last year that Microsoft was building three to five million Surface RT tablets in the fourth quarter, and we also heard that Microsoft had only sold about one million of those tablets in March." That's catastrophically bad.
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RE[4]: Wow
by toast88 on Fri 19th Jul 2013 07:26 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Wow"
toast88
Member since:
2009-09-23

Secure boot is a good thing, despite your protests to the otherwise.

MBR malware has been on the rise for years.


So, tell me, when was the last time you booted your PC off a floppy disk?

Bootsector malware has been on the rise? Really? What year do we have? 1995?

Most computers are attacked over the network nowadays, not boot media.

This whole justification for "Secure Boot" is just bullshit.

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RE[5]: Wow
by hamster on Fri 19th Jul 2013 08:18 in reply to "RE[4]: Wow"
hamster Member since:
2006-10-06

Mcafee seems to believe the mbr attacks are on the rise. But other then that i have not found any sources. And mcafee, yeah well they not unlike ms lives on spreding fear among the costumers...

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RE[5]: Wow
by Drumhellar on Fri 19th Jul 2013 08:25 in reply to "RE[4]: Wow"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

I think he means rootkits, not MBR viruses, which are two different things.

Secure Boot isn't about old-style boot sector viruses. It's about rootkits, which still exist and still attack current versions of Windows.

Edited 2013-07-19 08:29 UTC

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RE[6]: Wow
by Alfman on Fri 19th Jul 2013 09:34 in reply to "RE[5]: Wow"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Drumhellar,


"I think he means rootkits, not MBR viruses, which are two different things."

Or maybe he meant linux ;)

There are less controversial ways of protecting the MBR against the former two, but users intentionally booting alternatives are tough to block...Just sayin'

Edited 2013-07-19 09:47 UTC

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RE[6]: Wow
by toast88 on Sat 20th Jul 2013 22:41 in reply to "RE[5]: Wow"
toast88 Member since:
2009-09-23

Dude, if you have gained so much access to a machine that you can write to the bootsector, what's the point in doing that already?

You already have FULL access to a computer at the time and can copy and manipulate any data that you want.

Adrian

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RE[5]: Wow
by Vanders on Fri 19th Jul 2013 10:21 in reply to "RE[4]: Wow"
Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

I've always worked with the assumption that Secure Boot was more of a reaction to Windows 7 loaders like DAZ Loader. That's just my theory though.

Edited 2013-07-19 10:21 UTC

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RE[6]: Wow
by Nelson on Fri 19th Jul 2013 10:23 in reply to "RE[5]: Wow"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

This is probably it. For the most part.

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