Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 31st Jul 2013 14:12 UTC
Internet & Networking From The Guardian:

A top secret National Security Agency program allows analysts to search with no prior authorization through vast databases containing emails, online chats and the browsing histories of millions of individuals, according to documents provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden.

The NSA boasts in training materials that the program, called XKeyscore, is its "widest reaching" system for developing intelligence from the internet.

This is not PRISM - but a different system. The slides are damning, as always.

It validates claims made by Edward Snowden, and makes it clear that US government officials have been lying all along. There's no court order required for any of this - in a supposedly modern democracy. Crazy.

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RE[2]: it's modern fascism
by ezraz on Wed 31st Jul 2013 20:16 UTC in reply to "RE: it's modern fascism"
ezraz
Member since:
2012-06-20

yeah i agree with you. i'm not on facebook and because of this very reason and it is a bit of a pain in the azz to not play along with the digital revolution. but i know facebook, beyond profit, cannot be trusted with my personal info.

i'm not as concerned that they are 'watching' us, because since the moment we invented electronic communication there has been a way to view and soon after record it for nefarious uses. it's the searchable scalable database of our lives that we don't know exists that is worrisome.

i'm more concerned about it being a top-secret, who knows what's going on sort of thing. snowden did good i think. because this is a long-overdue discussion all societies need to have about privacy, since the machines are to the point of tracking us nearly everywhere doing nearly everything.

i'd like to see some of you hackers get to work showing us citizens exactly what they have on us. i'm a database programmer so i know what they can do with that data, but i don't know what they have, or from what sources, in the first place.

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RE[3]: it's modern fascism
by bryanv on Wed 31st Jul 2013 20:28 in reply to "RE[2]: it's modern fascism"
bryanv Member since:
2005-08-26

Mod parent up.

You listening NSA? I'd like to have a peek at just what you have on *me*.

Inquiring minds want to know.

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RE[4]: it's modern fascism
by shotsman on Thu 1st Aug 2013 05:54 in reply to "RE[3]: it's modern fascism"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

You would not see much even if you got to look at it. My guess is that 90% would be redacted.

Yes folks, you won't be allowed to see information about yourself. The simple reason is that they are afraid that so much is wrong that you will shout that fact to everyone who will listen.

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RE[4]: it's modern fascism
by CodeMonkey on Thu 1st Aug 2013 12:56 in reply to "RE[3]: it's modern fascism"
CodeMonkey Member since:
2005-09-22

I'd like to have a peek at just what you have on *me*.


Actually you can! There's a part of the Privacy Act of 1974, sec. (d)(1) that basically says you're allowed to know what the government has on you:

(d) Access to records

Each agency that maintains a system of records shall--

(1) upon request by any individual to gain access to his record or to any information pertaining to him which is contained in the system, permit him and upon his request, a person of his own choosing to accompany him, to review the record and have a copy made of all or any portion thereof in a form comprehensible to him, except that the agency may require the individual to furnish a written statement authorizing discussion of that individual's record in the accompanying person's presence;


So interestingly, not only can you go take a look at your records that they have on you, but you can even bring a laywer with you. I've actually filed this sort of request a few different times with a few different agencies and it's legit. It may take a month or 2 but you'll get it. It's quite interesting what you get back.

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