Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 31st Jul 2013 14:12 UTC
Internet & Networking From The Guardian:

A top secret National Security Agency program allows analysts to search with no prior authorization through vast databases containing emails, online chats and the browsing histories of millions of individuals, according to documents provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden.

The NSA boasts in training materials that the program, called XKeyscore, is its "widest reaching" system for developing intelligence from the internet.

This is not PRISM - but a different system. The slides are damning, as always.

It validates claims made by Edward Snowden, and makes it clear that US government officials have been lying all along. There's no court order required for any of this - in a supposedly modern democracy. Crazy.

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RE[6]: Comment by kwan_e
by kwan_e on Fri 2nd Aug 2013 04:19 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by kwan_e"
kwan_e
Member since:
2007-02-18

"Sorry, but the polls suggest that most Americans support the NSA.


You keep saying that, but you don't cite anything to back it up.
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Sure, I accept that.

Doesn't override my point that you can't assume that the allegiance of most gun owners will be against the NSA though.

Conservative Christians make up a large proportion of gun owners, and they think the NSA is only used to spy in terrorists/Muslims.

Again, maybe I'm pulling the numbers out of my arse.

The question is, how do you know that most gun nuts are anti-government or anti-snooping?

If you really think that it's reasonable to assume that all gun owners will somehow move in a coordinated way and you'll be able to take down the government, you must realize how stupid you are.

Edited 2013-08-02 04:21 UTC

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RE[7]: Comment by kwan_e
by Morgan on Fri 2nd Aug 2013 04:33 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by kwan_e"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

The question is, how do you know that most gun nuts are anti-government or anti-snooping?

If you really think that it's reasonable to assume that all gun owners will somehow move in a coordinated way and you'll be able to take down the government, you must realize how stupid you are.


When did I ever say any of that?? You're putting a hell of a lot of words in my mouth, then calling me stupid for it. That's a very strange thing to do.

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RE[8]: Comment by kwan_e
by kwan_e on Sat 3rd Aug 2013 00:20 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by kwan_e"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

"The question is, how do you know that most gun nuts are anti-government or anti-snooping?

If you really think that it's reasonable to assume that all gun owners will somehow move in a coordinated way and you'll be able to take down the government, you must realize how stupid you are.


When did I ever say any of that?? You're putting a hell of a lot of words in my mouth, then calling me stupid for it. That's a very strange thing to do.
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I don't know if you've ever done programming, but statements that follow an "if" apply conditionally. If you DON'T agree with the "if", then it did not apply to you.

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