Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 16th Aug 2013 16:10 UTC
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In the past two months, Microsoft and Google have been bickering over one central issue: HTML5. The Verge has learned that Google is forcing Microsoft to build its YouTube Windows Phone app in HTML5, despite its own Android and iOS versions using superior native code. Although Microsoft has offered to build ad support along with making other tweaks as Google has requested, a full HTML5 app isn't currently possible on the platform.

The difficult thing here is that Google actually has a very good case; it's their API, their service, their rules. On top of that, YouTube publishers - big and small - need to earn money from advertisements too, and incorrect implementations make that harder. Microsoft's mafia practices regarding patents, extorting companies to pay for Android use even though Microsoft has contributed zero code to Android plays a role too. Lastly, Windows Phone is essentially irrelevant with 3% market share - it's not as if Microsoft ever concerned itself with minority platforms.

Still, all this does is hurt consumers, no matter how few Windows Phone users there are. Just work this out, please, you bunch of children.

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dsmogor
Member since:
2005-09-01

If Google ran just like video service everybody else they could set whatever restrictions they like.
But the fact is they run a dominant service and give the preferred access to it to their own platform (which by the way is dominant as well).
This is no different from MS giving IE preference on Windows or hiding parts of Win api that made Word faster than WordPerfect.
They doesn't have to give it for free, any reasonable terms would be enough.
Expecting particular AD support and some form of compensation for access is within reasonable.

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cdude Member since:
2008-09-21


give the preferred access to it to their own platform

iOS is from Apple, not from Google. Its even the by wide distance main competition for Google in the mobile/tablet segments. Whats next? Microsoft sueing Samsung, Asus, Acer and HP cause they not make RT tablets any longer?


This is no different from MS giving IE preference on Windows or hiding parts of Win api that made Word faster than WordPerfect.

It is very different as you can see with my reply above. Google even made very clear what Microsoft, and anybody else, need to do to fulfit the terms. Its not like Google is asking for money here or even blocking any way to make it happen. The terms and conditions where and are known, also by Microsoft, long before WP8 and if WP8 cannot fulfit them or if Microsoff still does not like to fullfit them then so be it.

Small remainder: With the first version Microsoft went very far in going against any of the youtube-terms including streaming private content, blocking any ads, etc what tells something. With the second, this still blocked version, they just republished while work with Google to sort issues out was ongoing. That tells you again something.

Edited 2013-08-16 21:16 UTC

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bentoo Member since:
2012-09-21

Small remainder: With the first version Microsoft went very far in going against any of the youtube-terms including streaming private content, blocking any ads, etc what tells something. With the second, this still blocked version, they just republished while work with Google to sort issues out was ongoing. That tells you again something.


Correction, they removed the downloading and added their own reversed advertising API (since Google apparently doesn't publicly provide one).

There are other (non-MS) YouTube apps that still have these features yet haven't had their API keys revoked -- this is just another pissy move by Google.

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