Linked by Howard Fosdick on Thu 29th Aug 2013 03:50 UTC
QNX According to a Computerworld article, BlackBerry is exploring putting itself up for sale, as the company falls into 4th place in the mobile market. IDC statistics that show Android leads the mobile market with nearly 80%, iOS has 13.2%, Windows Phone 3.7%, and BlackBerry 2.9%. Gartner analyst Bill Menezes states that even new ownership is "not going to address how the company restores itself."

One key asset BlackBerry owns is QNX, the real-time based OS it bought in 2010. QNX is microkernel based, versus the monolithic kernel used by many OS's like Linux. BlackBerry bases its tablet and phone OS's on QNX, which also remains a popular commercial OS for embedded systems.
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RE[6]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Sun 1st Sep 2013 11:22 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Nelson"
Nelson
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Every developer who developed for Nokia platforms was already into Qt or getting into Qt. And yes, that's way more than the 30,000 WP Microsoft REPORTED to have around launch.

And I say REPORTED because WP users are still expecting those developers to show and actually DEVELOP anything. The amount and quality of applications in the Microsoft store is laughable!


Windows Phone has had one of these fastest growing application stores of any mobile platform, it reached 100,000 faster than anybody, only to be eclipsed by its big brother Windows 8.

I think there's definitely a link between Microsoft's developer registration numbers (which are PAID developer registrations by the way) and the speed the Windows Phone ecosystem has ramped out.

There were 20,000 developers in January 2011 (
http://www.winrumors.com/windows-phone-7-developer-momentum-continu...), 30,000 by April 2011 (http://www.cellular-news.com/story/48546.php) and by 2013 Windows Phone 8 had a *increase* of 40,000 developers since launch by Feb 2013.(http://blogs.windows.com/windows_phone/b/wpdev/archive/2013/02/25/w...)

Microsoft's app studio (which lets non-Devs create apps) saw 30,000 projects started in 48 hours.

Now, let's talk about Qt.

http://www.i-programmer.info/images/stories/News/2013/July/B/vmmind...

Shows that Windows Phone has over twice the mindshare of Qt, and that in fact, Qt mindshare is shrinking amongst developers

Again if you look at this chart, which maps out developer intent:

http://www.i-programmer.info/images/stories/News/2013/July/B/vminte...

Windows Phone dwarfs Qt in developer intent, and is in fact the platform most developers are looking at next.

That chart is the only thing, a global survey of 6,000 developers found that Windows Phone was similarly the most next platform of them all.

http://venturebeat.com/2013/07/17/6000-mobile-developers-android-mo...

And while we're at it, let's talk mobile revenue:

http://www.i-programmer.info/images/stories/News/2013/Aug/A/vismobr...

$3,600 for Windows Phone, $4,700 for Android, and $5,200 for iOS in monthly revenue. What's impressive about the stat is that Windows Phone volumes are nowhere near the top two, but developer revenue per month is.

This is a testament to a few things (imo): Carrier billing, Paid trial conversions, App store security from piracy, propensity of users of the platform to purchase apps (Android is notoriously bad at this) and saturation of the competing mobile platforms, which makes visibility take a nosedive.

I think quality is a bit of a misnomer in that it heavily depends on familiarity with the toolset and with the design language of the OS -- something that has taken shops a while to become proficient at. What is good is that Windows Phone 8 applications, especially the ones launching recently from major brands are becoming better and better.

What's also good is that small time developers are also making compelling looking apps. That's from my own personal use of apps on the store, so obviously YMMV but something tells me you haven't taken a look in a while.


Still waiting for those 8 million developers to show in WP...


You don't need to wait, I've more than shown that there is incredible momentum around Windows Phone, obviously it will never be a 1:1 transition but it does show a potential maximum upside.

It is nonsensical to not see an upside in Windows Phone, when it shares commonality with Windows itself which has an installed base of over 1.5 billion (and in fact Windows 8 is installed on around 6% of PCs worldwide, moving it to over 100 million actual copies sold to end users by now).

Given that the two are expected to further converge over time (http://pocketnow.com/2013/08/28/windows-phone-and-windows-rt-to-be-...) this will only increase the upside to developers.


That's based on actual statistics. It looks like you were not in the Nokia ecosystem, which was the dominant


Oh, awesome. Actual statistics (a change from your previous completely made up bullshit). Great, where are they?


Still waiting for those applications to be ported...

Oh wait, in case you were invested in Silverlight: Microsoft killed it!


Silverlight is not dead, in case you missed it, Silverlight powers Windows Phone 8 which as I've shown has had rapid developer attention.

What is dead is Silverlight as a browser plugin and desktop technology, but as we all painfully know, what's dead isn't "dead" in the enterprise. Enterprises are still using Windows XP for crying out loud, they aren't going to dump Silverlight LOB deployments over night. Actually, I know they don't, because my contracted work tells me this.


Well, congratulations, because that's the opposite experience everybody I have talked to have. I know people who are making more money in BlackBerry than in Windows Phone!


Talk to more people, I guess, is all I can say. I really don't know what you want me to say.


Errr... OK, I will not take that into account. Free piece of advice: do not ever compare WP7.5 + Silverlight to Meego + Qt and QML (there's widgets, too, in addition to QML) or you will be laughed at.


I can, and will. I've used both and I know the limitations of both very well, so I'd caution you. If you want to get into this conversation we can.

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