Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th Sep 2013 22:25 UTC
Apple

Great interview with Apple's executives.

When Apple got into the mobile business, it was Nokia’s world. The Finnish company was considered something of a miracle worker. "I'm old enough to remember when Nokia had margins of 25 percent, and there was absolutely no way they were going to be dislodged from their leadership position," says Kuittinen of research firm Alekstra. Says Cook, "I think [Nokia] is a reminder to everyone in business that you have to keep innovating and that to not innovate is to die."

Quite true. If a fingerprint scanner and a 64bit ARM chip are innovation, time will tell, but for now, Apple is surely still atop of its game. The amazing load of iOS 7 application updates and the rapid adoption of Apple's latest is testament to that.

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Rapid adoption
by darknexus on Thu 19th Sep 2013 23:03 UTC
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I'd say the rapid adoption of iOS 7 has a lot to do with the fact that, if you have any iPhone manufactured within the past three years, you actually can update. No messing around, no OEM delays, no carrier buggery or refusal to give you an update. I dare say new versions of Android would have that adoption rate too, if only everyone had a Nexus or Google Play edition device. Too bad OEMs are still allowed to fuck with it, as they were back in the Windows Mobile and Symbian days. That's one thing I do love about iOS despite everything, I must say.

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RE: Rapid adoption
by Nelson on Thu 19th Sep 2013 23:41 in reply to "Rapid adoption"
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2005-11-29

In my view, Apple commands (or at one point commanded) an almost unique desirability factor which afforded them the kind of clout needed to bully carriers into letting them control the pipe.

You could see this when the iPhone launched with Visual Voicemail for example, which at time was a completely new concept for carriers -- but introduced through an iOS interface. That was radical at the time (amazing, I know).

Android on the other hand gained critical mass by being the most viable choice outside of an iPhone, and for being as malleable as OEMs/Carriers want it to be.

So Apple and Android are both in the same place but the way they got there is different, and the way they throw their weight around is differently as well.

As long as iPhone sales hold strong and their engagement (from a platform profit, conversion rate, ad impression, and usage POV) remains high, Apple will continue to dominate with developers.

I'm glad Thom touched on the subject of iOS 7 updates an applications -- its extremely telling and a testament to the strength of Apple's developer ecosystem that there will probably be better "Metro Style" iOS apps than there are on Windows 8 and Windows Phone themselves.

Windows having a developer/app problem, who the hell would've thought.

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RE[2]: Rapid adoption
by l3v1 on Fri 20th Sep 2013 05:39 in reply to "RE: Rapid adoption"
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2005-07-06

Windows having a developer/app problem, who the hell would've thought.


It's not Windows that has the problem, it's WP (probably what you meant, anyway). And it's no surprise. You'll always find more developers at a bigger cash cow, and it's no secret that iStuff users pay more for apps and services than others. Of course, as with FOSS, there will also be crowds of devs who gather at friendlier pastures, like Android & co. However, if you can't provide either of the options, then you'll end up where WP is, where you drive manufacturers into the ground with your blind and forced effort to catch up with the flock and end up buying them just so that you can produce your device - even if you might end up building the great phone trash wall from unsold stock -, since nobody else is interested.

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