Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th Oct 2013 20:54 UTC
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Samsung's Galaxy Gear television advertisement bears a resemblance to the original iPhone advertisement.

This made me smile, though:

There is just no shame - or original ideas - in this company at all.

Yeah! Except for display technology. Oh, and except for microprocessor design. And, of course, they are a driving force in memory chip design. Well, yeah, except for all those things from which virtually every computer product today benefits - Apple or otherwise - Samsung has absolutely no innovative ideas at all. What have the Romans done for us, indeed.

I don't care about Samsung any more than I care about other companies, but to shove the company's contributions to technology aside just because you lack the capacity to grasp the kind of more bare metal innovation they do just makes you look like an idiot.

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RE: blind fools
by Soulbender on Tue 8th Oct 2013 15:51 UTC in reply to "blind fools"
Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

It's a simple software update away for Apple to give all sort of Android-software features, if they want to.


Just because it's easy doesn't mean it's not stealing. Every company in every industry "steal" from the competition, it's just funny how many Apple fans stubbornly insist that Apple doesn't ever do it.

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RE[2]: blind fools
by ezraz on Tue 8th Oct 2013 16:02 in reply to "RE: blind fools"
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2012-06-20

"It's a simple software update away for Apple to give all sort of Android-software features, if they want to.


Just because it's easy doesn't mean it's not stealing. Every company in every industry "steal" from the competition, it's just funny how many Apple fans stubbornly insist that Apple doesn't ever do it.
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I personally have never said that. I know Apple is inspired by other products. I know they compete in the marketplace with certain features and all that. I know they probably "steal" in many senses of the word, on individual features or details within an overall design.

But I believe, as a user of many technology companies' products, that Apple represents one of the best designers working in the consumer space today. From any country. At almost any price point.

In other market segments, luxury makers try to give their products Apple polish. Look into features like engineering tolerances, flex ratings, drop tests, airflow management, battery design and features, weight distribution, manufacturing consistency, etc etc etc and you will find Apple above other computer companies. They just care more because their primary value in the open marketplace is that they are built better.

Since it's a computer we are talking about, it's software AND hardware that is built. Apple first jumped ahead in hardware in the 70's Apple 2 Woz era, then with the 80's MacOS - their software was admired while their hardware was overpriced and non-standard. That's pre-UNIX, pre-Intel Apple. Now with Unix, iOS, Intel inside, and their leadership in ARM designs, and Jon Ive, Apple has serious strength in all of the above.

Which is why they are now one of the richest companies in the world and just become the most popular brands in the world. And Android is still owned by an advertising company.

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RE[3]: blind fools
by theinonen on Tue 8th Oct 2013 18:04 in reply to "RE[2]: blind fools"
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2009-10-06

Google may be an advertising company but that is ok, as Apple is also mainly a marketing company.

They sell average products at premium prices to people that buy them mostly as status indicators. Apple having the best designed equipment is mostly an illusion and clever marketing.

Apple products are nowdays everywhere, so it will only be a matter of time before people start looking to other direction when they want to differentiate themself from the others. Everyone wants to feel they are somehow special and with the equipment they use they are sending that message to others. Switching to Intel they lost that "think different" factor and turned to just another IBM PC clone maker they ridiculed in the past. Just another Unix is also not enough to be different enough.

Apple is starting to feel the pressure, so they release software full of bugs before it is really completed or tested properly. It really is sad if people find lots of different bugs in couple minutes after software update and makes you wander if they even tested it at all.

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RE[3]: blind fools
by JAlexoid on Wed 9th Oct 2013 10:12 in reply to "RE[2]: blind fools"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

In other market segments, luxury makers try to give their products Apple polish. Look into features like engineering tolerances, flex ratings, drop tests, airflow management, battery design and features, weight distribution, manufacturing consistency, etc etc etc and you will find Apple above other computer companies. They just care more because their primary value in the open marketplace is that they are built better.

Apple polish? Since when does a high quality that we expect from any premium product is called "Apple polish"? Maybe we should say BMW or Mercedes polish? You know because those companies did it even before Job's parents were conceived.
Geez... Love Apple, but don't to rewrite history.

Since it's a computer we are talking about, it's software AND hardware that is built.

And please do explain what did Samsung rip-off from Apple in it's SGS4? (Hardware only please; because software is just a hack, according to your own statements)

And Android is still owned by an advertising company.

Which is relevant in what way?

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