Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 21st Oct 2013 22:33 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems

The French Minitel never ceases to amaze me.

In 1984 the government allowed developers to create services for the Minitel. The government took a 30% cut and passed the rest on to developers (sound familiar?) creating the world's first app store. From a user's perspective using apps on the Minitel was frictionless - you were just billed for what you used through your phone bill.

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How big was this app store? In the nineties it was pulling in over a billion USD a year! This is an astronomical sum when you consider France's population size. Though the crossover point is near, the Minitel in its lifetime paid out more to developers than Apple has to iOS developers to date. Companies would advertise their apps in the subway, on highway billboards, and on television.

Amazing. This could very well be the first application store, something many people think is a new phenomenon invented by Apple.

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RE: Success
by WorknMan on Tue 22nd Oct 2013 00:30 UTC in reply to "Success"
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

Yeah, everybody is always tripping over themselves, trying to find some company that did something before Apple. Like how the shitty LG Prada came before the iPhone, so obviously Apple deserves none of the credit for re-inventing the smartphone. I guess that's why all of the iPhone's competitors were in a rush to copy the LG Prada ;)

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RE[2]: Success
by ferrels on Tue 22nd Oct 2013 00:47 in reply to "RE: Success"
ferrels Member since:
2006-08-15

The only person tripping here is you. Apple hasn't had an original idea since their inception. Even OSX is Darwin/NetBSD with a different gui thrown over the top. Apple is great at marketing and appealing to the herd mentality, but lauding them for copying or re-inventing something, including the smartphone is ridiculous. That's like rewarding an artist for making copies of the Mona Lisa and telling him how great he is for making copies.....get real!

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RE[3]: Success
by WorknMan on Tue 22nd Oct 2013 02:03 in reply to "RE[2]: Success"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

LOL, of course Apple re-invented the smartphone. Want proof? Watch the original keynote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4OEsI0Sc_s

Steve Jobs is having to explain to the audience how the navigation on it worked, because there hadn't been a phone like it before. And pretty much every smartphone to come after it worked the same way.

Am I saying that the iPhone is currently the best smartphone on the market, or that they haven't ripped from other phones since? No. Just that it was a game changer when it came out. iPad was the same way in regard to tablets.

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RE[2]: Success
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 22nd Oct 2013 15:27 in reply to "RE: Success"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

I think you just highlighted the difference between having an Idea and implementing it successfully. Unfortunately, those that actually implement an idea successfully get mistaken for having actually came up with the idea. This is especially frustrating when they patent the heck out of the the ideas and sue those that also implement the same ideas they didn't devise in the first place.

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RE[3]: Success
by Alfman on Tue 22nd Oct 2013 16:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Success"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Bill Shooter of Bul,

"Unfortunately, those that actually implement an idea successfully get mistaken for having actually came up with the idea."

"This is especially frustrating when they patent the heck out of the the ideas and sue those that also implement the same ideas they didn't devise in the first place."

Osnews doesn't let me vote, but I think these are the two most insightful comments here.

I worked at company 15 years ago (which become defunct in the dot com bust) who were developing graphical PLC programming software for windows and I was quite surprised when I found a new American Automatrix product (coincidentally located only 30 miles away) doing the same thing over ten years later. And you know what, "my" version was much faster on 32MB Pentium computers than AAM's is today on 4GB Core 2s.

Their software needs work from someone who's good with optimization, I wonder if they'd give me a job?

Edited 2013-10-22 17:00 UTC

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RE[2]: Success
by BallmerKnowsBest on Tue 22nd Oct 2013 17:57 in reply to "RE: Success"
BallmerKnowsBest Member since:
2008-06-02

Yeah, everybody is always tripping over themselves, trying to find some company that did something before Apple.


Yeaaaahhhhh, I'm sure that doesn't have anything to do with the fact that Apple fanbois have a borderline obsessive-compulsive need to give Apple credit for every innovation in the history of computing....

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