Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 29th Oct 2013 15:04 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Nokia has just announced its Q3 2013 financial results, revealing an operating profit of EUR118 million ($162 million) from EUR 5.66 billion ($7.8 billion) revenue. That's up massively year over year, but nonetheless represents another quarter of middling results. The report is the first since Microsoft agreed to purchase Nokia's phone business, and that division - Devices and Services - performed as expected, posting a small loss of EUR 86 million ($118 million).

So, Microsoft is buying the part of Nokia that is losing money, while the parts that make money remain in Finland. Seems like a good deal for Nokia-proper. In the meantime, Microsoft will be saddled with a devices division that is still losing money, and whose increase in sales consists largely of low-end, low-margin devices (like the 520). Interesting - especially since Windows Phone was supposed to prevent Nokia participating in a race to the bottom. I'm sure Microsoft's super-successful Surface division welcomes Nokia's devices division.

The cold truth: even more than 2.5 years after announcing the switch to Windows Phone, Nokia's Lumia range still cannot make up for drop in sales of Symbian devices and feature phones. This is roughly the same timeframe in which Samsung rose to the top. With Android.

Read into that what you will.

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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 29th Oct 2013 19:43 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Nelson"
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I predicted Nokia would not make it with Windows Phone.

I was right.

They had to sell their devices division to Microsoft.

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RE[4]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Tue 29th Oct 2013 20:36 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Nelson"
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I think your criteria for failure is a little peculiar in light of a years worth of increases, increases in North America, a growing ecosystem, and a strong brand name.

But yeah, sure, "failure". I called these results 100% on the mark. You've been so wrong on everything the broken clock analogy doesn't even apply.

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RE[5]: Comment by Nelson
by JAlexoid on Wed 30th Oct 2013 00:34 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Nelson"
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I'm sorry, but weren't you the one yapping about that the low end devices aren't low margin? These numbers and previous quarters just ads to the proof that they are selling low margin devices, that have high development and support costs.

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