Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 11th Nov 2013 22:49 UTC
Games

Sony, June this year:

"PlayStation 4 won't impose any new restrictions on used games. This is a good thing," said Tretton, to huge applause from the audience in attendance. "When a gamer buys a PS4 disc, they have the rights to that copy of the game."

Sony's Software Usage Terms, updated today:

6.3. You must not lease, rent, sublicense, publish, modify, adapt, or translate any portion of the Software.

7.1. You must not resell either Disc-based Software or Software Downloads, unless expressly authorised by us and, if the publisher is another company, additionally by the publisher.

Liars. Similar language has been found on the boxes of previous PlayStation models, but that's hardly a comfort.

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Steam machines
by fengshaun on Tue 12th Nov 2013 00:15 UTC
fengshaun
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2010-01-18

I see Steamboxes (Steam Machines?) are looking mighty good right now!

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RE: Steam machines
by WereCatf on Tue 12th Nov 2013 01:15 in reply to "Steam machines"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

I see Steamboxes (Steam Machines?) are looking mighty good right now!


As much as I love Steam and the SteamOS and as much as I am interested in the new controllers by Valve I have to say that I hope you were being sarcastic.

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RE: Steam machines
by tylerdurden on Tue 12th Nov 2013 01:30 in reply to "Steam machines"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

Whatever it is that you're smoking, you should share.

Let us know how exactly do you exchange/sell a used game on steam...

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RE[2]: Steam machines
by woegjiub on Tue 12th Nov 2013 02:08 in reply to "RE: Steam machines"
woegjiub Member since:
2008-11-25

You don't need to for steam, because the sales make everything deliciously cheap.

I've ~300 games in my library, and I've played ~15 of them. The others seemed cool, and were cheap, so I got them just in case I felt like playing them some rainy day.

Also; I've spent the equivalent of about 10 console games to get all of those, and there are a fair few 'AAA' titles amongst them.

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RE: Steam machines
by aliquis on Tue 12th Nov 2013 06:33 in reply to "Steam machines"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

I see Steamboxes (Steam Machines?) are looking mighty good right now!
No. You can't sell shit from Steam. Or lend it. Family sharing is very crippled.

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RE[2]: Steam machines
by kallisti5 on Thu 14th Nov 2013 05:37 in reply to "RE: Steam machines"
kallisti5 Member since:
2009-09-08

Except steam games generally aren't $60 USD+ :\

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RE: Steam machines
by kurkosdr on Tue 12th Nov 2013 10:07 in reply to "Steam machines"
kurkosdr Member since:
2011-04-11

I see Steamboxes (Steam Machines?) are looking mighty good right now!

Wish I could say so, but they 'll probably mess up the price. There was one other company which made just the designs and let others do the manufacturing: 3DO.

Or they 'll release a reasonably priced "mid-tier" model which will be obsolete a year from now, allienating the console audience, which hates "upgrades". Take your pick.

Also Steam is a DRM mess of it's own.

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RE: Steam machines
by Kivada on Wed 13th Nov 2013 01:19 in reply to "Steam machines"
Kivada Member since:
2010-07-07

I see Steamboxes (Steam Machines?) are looking mighty good right now!

Right, because being able to resell a disc based game you paid $60 for and have always been able to do with every previous disc based console is completely the same thing as not being able to sell direct download only games that you picked up on a 75%+ sale or bundle site that are registered to your account.

Theres a world of difference between the 2 systems. If The restriction was only to your PSN account direct downloaded games then nobody would have a problem, but when its a CD you bought at Best Buy thats another story all together.

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