Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 4th Dec 2013 18:06 UTC

"Joining the Linux Foundation is one of many ways Valve is investing in the advancement of Linux gaming," Mike Sartain, a key member of the Linux team at Valve said. "Through these efforts we hope to contribute tools for developers building new experiences on Linux, compel hardware manufacturers to prioritize support for Linux, and ultimately deliver an elegant and open platform for Linux users."

Mark my words: Valve will do for Linux gaming what Android did for Linux mobile. Much crow will be eaten by naysayers in a few years.

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RE[2]: Android did for Linux?
by Ithamar on Wed 4th Dec 2013 21:33 UTC in reply to "RE: Android did for Linux?"
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You mean avoid dealing with the Linux upstream cabal in order to ship the product in time, scrapping the 20 year old cruft sitting above the linux kernel (, the mess that is Linux audio) while building a more streamlined userland better suited to smartphones, and getting their patches rejected by the upstream cabal (wake locks)?

I have enough real life experience to know that _being_ upstream on product release might not be feasible (although possible), but not working with upstream at all, even after the fact, is quite different.

What was released on the first device had been years in the making, and in that time a lot could have been done with upstream. Even when not doing that, doing it after the fact is still very doable.

Nokia tried to play by the rules with MeeGo, and look what happened to them. Everyone was shipping their new mobile OSes by Q4 2010, Nokia wanted MeeGo to put it in the Nokia N8, but MeeGo wasn't ready so the N8 shipped with freaking Symbian. Nokia themselves admitted "technical difficulties" with MeeGo as the reason for the huge delays. By the time they had hammered around the issues, the investors were getting impatient and Elop happened. Android would have been yet another perpetually in beta no-show if it had been based on "real linux".

Nokia was shipping "tablet" products before Android even existed ;) The fact that they screwed up says more about Nokia management then anything else....

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