Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 17th Dec 2013 00:05 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

We just discovered an issue in both and today which causes update of the store token required for accessing store repositories to fail. A fix for that has been pushed a few minutes ago: The update to version you might be seeing on your device soon contains exactly this one fix to keep store access working.

My Jolla arrived this morning, and I've been playing with it all day. It is by far the most exciting device and operating system I've used in a long, long time. When it arrived, the first update to the operating system was already waiting for me to be installed - and only a few hours later, another update is hitting the device. They have promised another large bugfix and stability update before the end of the year, with updates with new features arriving early next year.

These men and women know what they're doing. They're not overselling, and they keep their promises. A very promising start.

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RE[3]: Other open platforms
by bassbeast on Tue 17th Dec 2013 19:17 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Other open platforms"
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Question: Are the FF phones all still using REALLY crappy hardware?

Not trying to dis the OS, it looks nice, but it seems to be falling into the same slum that befell those Linux boxes that the BB retailers would carry. Take a FOSS OS, slap it on out of date hardware that you can't move anymore, call it a day.

If they put it on something with decent specs at an affordable price? Say something similar to what I've been seeing the $150 Android phones, 1.2 Ghz+ with 1Gb of RAM? Hell I'd be happy to try it, especially if they come out with a slider, but so far all I've seen are phones that have worse specs than my 2011 LG I got for free from the prepaid just for buying a phone card!

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RE[4]: Other open platforms
by Morgan on Tue 17th Dec 2013 19:29 in reply to "RE[3]: Other open platforms"
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I've tested it on a Nexus S and Nexus 4. It really doesn't matter so much about the raw hardware specs, as it is a very lightweight OS to start with. That's one of the things I really like about it, and why I'm only partly joking when I say I want it on the N900. Because lately, Maemo just seems so S-L-O-W compared to modern phones! I'd love for the N900 to have an OS as fluid and modern as Android on the Nexus 4 or Windows Phone on, well, any Lumia.

Anyway, because of its light footprint it can run well on very basic hardware. With Firefox OS I'd be focused more on screen quality and battery life than processor speed and RAM.

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RE[5]: Other open platforms
by bassbeast on Thu 19th Dec 2013 00:32 in reply to "RE[4]: Other open platforms"
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The elephant in the room is video though, sure a crappy CPU and a teeny tiny bit of RAM can surf all day on static webpages, heck I recently sold my 2003 Sempron and with even a CPU that old and a lousy 1Gb of RAM it'd do static webpages and webmail all day long.

But folks today want to be able to watch videos on their mobile devices and THAT is where not having enough horse is gonna bite it in the behind. IMHO the worse thing that happened to mobile was the press kissing Jobs' behind and letting him kill Flash (not a single media outlet pointed out how killing Flash gave him complete control with his appstore? Really?) because frankly H.26x is a pig. My 2011 LG can play SD flash without a bit of stutter but H.264 is a stutter monster, I can only imagine what it must be like on the specs the MozPhone comes with.

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RE[4]: Other open platforms
by thulfram on Tue 17th Dec 2013 21:27 in reply to "RE[3]: Other open platforms"
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I wouldn't say they were crappy (everything works), but as a retired engineer, I'd say that this is a developer phone and I don't drop it on the floor very often (I did accidentally and it burst open but wasn't hurt). I have a ZTE Open and for $79 (unlocked) I think the value is there. It could use more system memory. But everything works. I can make calls (just put in a SIM card), play music, play games, and write programs that run on it.

If anyone wants to know more about the practical Firefox OS programming, my blog is

Firefox OS is still growing but growing fast. And the main point is that the barrier to entry is very low.

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