Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Dec 2013 20:47 UTC

Apple today announced the all-new Mac Pro will be available to order starting Thursday, December 19. Redesigned from the inside out, the all-new Mac Pro features the latest Intel Xeon processors, dual workstation-class GPUs, PCIe-based flash storage and ultra-fast ECC memory.

This thing is so damn awesome. I don't need it, but I still want one.

Thread beginning with comment 579302
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE[7]: Comment by smashIt
by fmaxwell on Sat 21st Dec 2013 18:48 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by smashIt"
Member since:

Didn't previous Mac Pro versions use standard PC components that snapped into standard slots?

While it used the PCIe bus, if you plugged many of the standard PC components into the slots, they would not work. That's why companies like Sonnett Technologies made specific upgrade cards for Mac Pros. It's why ATI released "Mac Edition" upgrade video cards for use in Mac Pros.

Even the RAM was non-standard, requiring large heatsinks (so that Mac Pros, unlike their PC counterparts, would be quiet in operation). Again, aftermarket companies sprung into action producing Mac Pro specific DIMMS with compatible heatsinks.

Even replacement mechanical drive sleds, which only worked in Mac Pros, were produced by third party companies.

There were even external USB and Firewire hard drives produced with the same, distintive perforated aluminum chassis style to aesthetically match the Mac Pro.

How many upgrade components were available for the Mac Cube?

There were third party CPU upgrade cards, some with special ducting for cooling. There was a Geforce 2 MX video card in a version specially created for the Cube. The Cube used the same memory and hard drive components as a traditional desktop machine and these upgrades were common. And, unlike the Mac Pro line, the cube sold very poorly.

Upgrades for the new Mac Pro will be be plentiful. The RAM is standard, so that's a non-issue. The Thunderbolt 2 ports are an Intel standard and there are already PC motherboards with them. There are already Mac-specific Thunderbolt 2 to PCIe expansion chassis available, so you can add PCIe cards.

Apple has changed the upgrading game by going away from users shoving cards and drives into the box, a practice that resulted in an ungainly, huge box with a massively oversized cooling system and power supply. Now, a creative professional or engineer with a Mac Pro can have all of his mass storage on an external RAID interfaced by Thunderbolt 2 or USB 3.0. He can buy a new Mac Pro in a few years and swap it in with nothing more than moving a few external cables and a Time Machine restoration of the applications and settings from the RAID.

Reply Parent Score: 0

RE[8]: Comment by smashIt
by joe_tester on Mon 23rd Dec 2013 17:26 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by smashIt"
joe_tester Member since:

I love that logic.

I have one "big" box. It has four cables connected at the back. Power, LAN, two monitors. Six if you'll count power for monitors. It has four HDDs and two SSDs plus couple extra PCI cards. I still can put couple extra drives inside.

You're proposing one "small" box and then I will need at least one expensive box to shove my extra HDDs (two extra cables). Plus another box where I can put my PCI cards (another box and two cables). Plus another box with a DVD (yes, some people do need to at least read them from time to time). And USB hub might be useful considering how in apple world front or side USB ports are not kosher anymore. How about better sound than 3.5mm jack?

In the end we do have one small computer, but for typical usability scenario on the side there will be collection of boxes with nice wire spaghetti and half a dozen of power bricks and another power strip ;)

Am I wrong? The same thing happens right now on the desks of imac owners. I've seen it few times.

Reply Parent Score: 1

RE[9]: Comment by smashIt
by fmaxwell on Mon 23rd Dec 2013 18:24 in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by smashIt"
fmaxwell Member since:

Am I wrong? The same thing happens right now on the desks of imac owners. I've seen it few times.

I have a Mac Pro with four drive bays. Three are empty.

My primary storage is a 4x2TB RAID10 eSATA enclosure and a 5x3TB RAID6 NAS.

My Mac Pro's built-in S/PDIF optical output is connected to an AV receiver for D/A conversion and amplification for speakers. For headphone use, I have an external USB DAC that feeds a headphone amp.

My BluRay drive is in an external USB enclosure.

I've got a 13 port USB hub on my desk.

I think that you're trying to evaluate a workstation computer as if it were a home computer. Not the same thing.

Reply Parent Score: 1