Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Jan 2014 22:47 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems

Also from CES:

On stage at CES today, Jonney Shih proclaimed his company's new Transformer the world's first 4-in-1 device. By that he meant that it's a Windows laptop and tablet as well as an Android laptop and tablet. This new 13.3-inch slate transforms both physically and virtually thanks to the company's new dual-OS setup. A quick switch of three or four seconds is all that's required to morph you from the Windows 8 environment into the familiar Android UI and vice versa.

And all this is actively promoted and supported by Intel. So, Microsoft creates an operating system that is supposed to be both desktop and tablet operating system. However, nobody wants it. So, Intel and PC makers confuse everything even more by... Adding Android to the mix? What?

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RE: Comment by ilovebeer
by No it isnt on Tue 7th Jan 2014 20:06 UTC in reply to "Comment by ilovebeer"
No it isnt
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But a tablet and a PC have very much the same uses: browsing the interwebs, posting pictures of cats to Facebook/Reddit, chatting, consuming media and information, and doing stuff to data. Granted, any Android or iOS tablet is grossly insufficient for the latter (they are toys), but any modern PC can do all of the above. What's this about different tasks? The difference is one of use cases: you use a tablet lying on the sofa or on the bus, or even walking around, and you use a PC at your desk.

But how about this use case: You've got one of these modern jobs in which you consume media and information and do stuff to data. From time to time, you need to take pieces of information with you for whatever reason. For this, you possibly use a printer, an ancient device that leaves persistent marks on dead trees. This is stupid. I'd rather just walk off with the part of the computer that I need, the screen.

The one problem with convertibles is that the tablet UI sucks, and the current solution to making the PC work as a tablet is to turn it into one (Windows 8 Metro). This sucks. Another is to use Android as a laptop OS. This isn't even funny, Asus! And now we have Android on Windows, most likely on the Windows 8 desktop (with a classic Windows start menu installed). A bunch of people (me included) obviously really really want a portable computer that can be used as a tablet, and here we have a few (poor) solutions to that problem. While we're waiting for something better, software developers have real hardware to work with.

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RE[2]: Comment by ilovebeer
by ilovebeer on Wed 8th Jan 2014 00:21 in reply to "RE: Comment by ilovebeer"
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But a tablet and a PC have very much the same uses: browsing the interwebs, posting pictures of cats to Facebook/Reddit, chatting, consuming media and information, and doing stuff to data. Granted, any Android or iOS tablet is grossly insufficient for the latter (they are toys), but any modern PC can do all of the above. What's this about different tasks? The difference is one of use cases: you use a tablet lying on the sofa or on the bus, or even walking around, and you use a PC at your desk.

If all you need/do is roam the web in a browser, check email, post pictures of your cat & lunch to Facebook, etc. then yes, a tablet or laptop may suit your needs. But what happens when you want to do something that requires more horsepower? What happens when you need to work in a multi-screen environment? What happens when you need to plug in several peripherals/devices? Laptops and tablets can't satisfy those needs. So yes, different types of devices are better at different types of tasks. It's not just a simple matter of whether you want to lay on a couch or sit at a desk. It seems people have forgotten that basic little fact -- At least the ones who only use a computer for the most mundane & elementary tasks.

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RE[3]: Comment by ilovebeer
by No it isnt on Wed 8th Jan 2014 17:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ilovebeer"
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For all those things, I use a laptop. With docking. It's basically my desktop PC at work: laptop, docking, two widescreen monitors, a bunch of USB devices, wired networking, full size keyboard, mouse. A laptop OS needs to be able to do that sort of thing, just like Windows 7.

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