Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 10th Jan 2014 01:56 UTC

Although Apple and Google officially sit out the biggest tech trade show of the year, their platforms are well represented by the third parties that create thousands of products for them. This year it feels like Microsoft is simply being left out.

Windows has virtually no presence in the two biggest things to hit computing in a long time, and it's starting to show. Microsoft may not be in trouble - but Windows is.

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RE[6]: Comment by Nelson
by jockm on Sat 11th Jan 2014 19:41 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Nelson"
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Thom said Microsoft has no presence in tablets, and that is simply not true. It would be correct if — like windows phone — he said they had virtually no presence, but that isn't what he did.

I am also of the opinion that WinRT tablets and 8.x tablets should be grouped together since they are united by Metro and apps can be written that work on both without modification (just different compiler targets).

As such I don't think you can argue that Microsoft has no presence in tablets. But I do think it is another example of one of Thom's biases poking though when it shouldn't.

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RE[7]: Comment by Nelson
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Mon 13th Jan 2014 19:51 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Nelson"
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Define: presence.

I have a presence in the soft drink industry with 0.000000000000001% of market share ( I devised my own soft drink beverage and sold it on the streets in a street fair). Is it fair to mention me in the same sentence as cocacola or pepsi? Obviously an extreme example, but there is a cut off somewhere.

Thom would argue that its met the threshold in cell phones, but not in tablets ( as he would define tablets).

In any case I think his remark was easily understood and fairly accurate.

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RE[8]: Comment by Nelson
by jockm on Mon 13th Jan 2014 21:38 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by Nelson"
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Actually you should be asking Thom since he is the one who started it.

I have no idea what he considers the threshold to be, and I am sure Thom doesn't. But I would think 2.2% of channel sales in 2013* counts as a presence.

I am not saying it is a big presence but I am calling BS on Thom's comment. Especially since he didn't even both baking it up.

Or to give a different argument, I am willing to be that Microsoft's Tablet market share worldwide is is much higher than Jolla's at this very moment.

BTW it would be a real trick to have a market share of 0.000000000000001% as .000000015% is (approximately) one person out of the earths population.


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