Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 17th Jan 2014 23:38 UTC
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President Obama announced on Friday that he will place new limits on intelligence agencies' bulk collection of phone call records. But he rejected some other recommendations to rein in surveillance made by a panel of outside advisers.

The NYT lists the changes. It's insubstantial.

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Spying on its own people
by cmost on Sat 18th Jan 2014 15:21 UTC
cmost
Member since:
2006-07-16

The United States in its arrogance as a world superpower is not only spying on everyone else, but its own people and for no other reason that it simply can. Incredibly, most people who are poled simply shrug this off and go back to their idiot television programming thinking "who cares because I have nothing to hide." I have to wonder what it will take to get the public outraged enough to do something drastic. Maybe if the police start showing up at peoples' homes and search without warrants (or with a sealed warrant signed in secret by an unnamed judge) that will do the trick.

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RE: Spying on its own people
by leech on Sat 18th Jan 2014 16:38 in reply to "Spying on its own people"
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

Yeah, it really is sad. I've spoken to at least one person who said that, and yet again he also didn't like 2112 by Rush, and is a 'Linux Administrator' who doesn't think Linux is ready for the desktop, and wanted to use Windows 7 to do his administrating. He also doesn't think a chipset on a motherboard does anything for performance or stability...

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RE: Spying on its own people
by ilovebeer on Sat 18th Jan 2014 18:08 in reply to "Spying on its own people"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

There are a lot of couch critics here in America. People who are very opinionated as long as they don't have to get off the couch. We've been conditioned to be like this. We've been conditioned to be submissive.

We're also a very divided country with our politicians seemingly trying to deepen that divide as much as possible. Maybe it's to prevent us from becoming united? If we're too consumed with hating each other, we're no threat to those in power and those engaged in the raping of the middle & lower class.

Our election system is rigged in that it allows for fraud, and citizens votes do not decide who wins elections. Our leaders have manipulated the rules making it near impossible to remove people we don't like AKA gerrymandering. "The will of the people" is allowed only when in alignment with what those in power want.

Lastly, I don't believe my government is spying on everyone, including our own citizens, to protect. Those who seek to destroy the US have already won because they have made a once great nation into a fearful & paranoid, that is going to self-destruct.

There mere fact that I'm hesitant to submit posts like this speaks volumes. Who is the biggest threat -- the people on the other side of the Earth wishing you to fail, or those who are looking over your shoulder 24/7 recording every aspect of your life?

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