Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 12th Mar 2014 23:05 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
QNX

QNX 6.6 has been released. There are quite a lot of changes, but - sady - I doubt many of us work with QNX itself. It's quite popular in the embedded world, and, of course forms the foundation for BB10 - which has not exactly been a stellar success. Anywho, there's a pretty big change in 6.6:

The new Screen Graphics Subsystem replaces the Photon microGUI, including PhAB, Phindows, and QNX Neutrino Advanced Graphics. Usually referred to simply as "Screen", the Screen Graphics Subsystem allows off-screen rendering and can composite graphics from different rendering technologies, including HTML5, Elektrobit GUIDE, Crank Storyboard, Qt, and native (e.g., OpenGL ES) code.

Photon has been such a core part of QNX' identity for me that it's kind of weird to see it go.

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ingraham
Member since:
2006-05-20

It is interesting that Thom felt the need to throw in that BB10 "has not exactly been a stellar success". That may be true but BlackBerry still has 3x the market share of Windows Phone (which Thom likes).


Well, BlackBerry "classic" and BB10 don't seem to be split out in that chart, so we really don't know how well BB10 doing. But "not exactly a stellar success" is a pretty soft way of saying "scrabbling over the 11% of the market left over from Android and Apple." Also, Thom may LIKE Windows Phone, but he has never claimed that it was a stellar success. Likewise his praise of Jolla has included statements that point out the difficulty Sailfish will have in the market.

You want an example of trolling BB users? Try this: BlackBerry will cease to exist before the end of 2014. Due to it's reliance on QNX -- which will survive -- BB10 will never be able to go open source, so it will die more thoroughly than WebOS, PalmOS, and BeOS. (Hey, didn't Palm take BeOS down with them?)

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BlueofRainbow Member since:
2009-01-06

It is doubtful that BB10 will ever be open sourced as it runs on a specific set of devices - being based on QNX is only an hindrance as the functionality could be implemented over a Linux Kernel (in a similar fashion to Android for this matter).

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tanishaj Member since:
2010-12-22

You want an example of trolling BB users? Try this: BlackBerry will cease to exist before the end of 2014. Due to it's reliance on QNX -- which will survive -- BB10 will never be able to go open source, so it will die more thoroughly than WebOS, PalmOS, and BeOS. (Hey, didn't Palm take BeOS down with them?)


Interesting perspective. I long ago predicted that Android would dominate iOS because it was open. However, I am not sure that Open Source has mattered as much as the open ecosystem (like Windows before it). As a Linux user since 1992 that cannot wait to play with Ubuntu mobile, I am starting to doubt that Open Source matters much in the mobile market. Due to the reliance on Google services, Android is less Open Source all the time and nobody seems to much care.

BlackBerry is not open enough to be the dominant consumer phone platform if that is what you are shooting at. It remains to be seen if there is an "enterprise" segment in devices where BB10 could be the UNIX of mobile. It depends how far BYOD goes.

Saying that BlackBerry the company will cease to exist this year is pretty bold. The quality of their current management alone argues against it. I think Chen will spend a few years building before he sells BlackBerry.

Counted in WatsApp bucks, the current market price for BlackBerry might be worth paying just to get BBM (messenger). BES still dominates the enterprise device management space. BES12 will be by far the most capable cross-platform solution and that business is still growing. Saying that BlackBerry will migrate to becoming a pure software company is a much more arguable position.

Personally, I think the chances of an all software BlackBerry are only a little better than an all devices Microsoft.

Devices is the weakest part of the BlackBerry business. The consumer/retail side even more so. That said, successful niches (like Apple) are still possible. Regardless of profit potential, devices are strategic for BlackBerry on the enterprise side and a real differentiator against software-only competitors. With Foxconn making the devices, BlackBerry does not have a lot of device risk or overhead.

There is of course also the wild card of the tens of millions of current BlackBerry users worldwide. If BB10 starts to get traction, the platform could still be successful. BB10 was only released a year ago after all and is just starting to find it's legs.

In short, I do not find your prediction very credible. Then again, I have been wrong on the Internet before and your opinion is not an unpopular one.

PS. Why would BB10 would die worse than PalmOS or BeOS? Those are also closed source. BeOS was indeed sold into obscurity (to Access Co.) as part of PalmSource. BeOS may live again as Haiku but that goes against your argument as people could certainly produce an Open Source clone of BB10 as well (which would truly surprise me). WebOS never enjoyed any commercial success but it is still out there somewhere thanks to Open Source as you say.

PPS. BlackBerry could certainly Open Source BB10 (including QNX) if they wanted to. They could also Open Source everything but QNX and it could be ported to a Linux kernel. That may not be too hard given that both QNX and Linux grew out of the POSIX ecosystem. I do not see either of these things happening though.

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