Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th Apr 2014 19:55 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y

I'm using the URL slug headline for this one (check the link).

This map showing the locations of 280 million individual posts on Twitter shows a depressing divide in America: Tweets coming from Manhattan tend to come from iPhones. Tweets coming from Newark, N.J., tend to come from Android phones.

If you live in the New York metro area, you don't need to be told that Manhattan is where the region's rich people live, and the poor live in Newark. Manhattan's median income is $67,000 a year. Newark's is $17,000, according to U.S. Census data.

This fascinates me, as it seems to be a very American thing. In The Netherlands, Android has an 80% market share, and we have far lower poverty rates than the US (that Newark median income is crazy low by Dutch standards). I'm pretty sure the situation is similar for many other West-European nations.

This raises an interesting question: is it 'Android is for poor people' - or is it 'Android is for poor people in America'?

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Poverty rates
by Vinegar Joe on Mon 7th Apr 2014 20:45 UTC
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2006-08-16

"In The Netherlands, Android has an 80% market share, and we have far lower poverty rates than the US...."

Pay back the aid you received after WWII and then take back the descendents of slaves you brought to North America (the first slave ship arrived at Jamestown in 1619.......and was Dutch).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep4rh2aj4VY

Edited 2014-04-07 20:48 UTC

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RE: Poverty rates
by vansmith on Mon 7th Apr 2014 21:38 in reply to "Poverty rates"
vansmith Member since:
2014-04-07

Pay back the aid you received after WWII

There's so much wrong with this statement:

1. That's not how aid works. You don't give money for reconstruction and then hold it over someone.
2. An overly simplistic statement such as the preceding fails to recognize the very American-centric nature of the ERP - the funds were largely used to buy American goods and done in such a way to benefit America's interest over Europe. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that (certainly not a criticism of the policy) - just something to consider.
3. Beyond that, if the Dutch felt compelled to pay that back, it's about $1.3b USD in 2013 money. The budget of the Kingdom of the Netherlands is more than $420b USD. Since you seem to be making this comment out of spite, you ought to aim higher. But, while were making claims that repaying loans and debts are necessary for critique, China's calling and would like their 1.1 trillion dollars back before the US government criticizes them (that's 86b USD in 1945 dollars by the way, a significantly larger amount than the 100m USD sent to the Netherlands as part of the ERP).

and then take back the descendents of slaves you brought to North America (the first slave ship arrived at Jamestown in 1619.......and was Dutch).

I'm sure there's a point in here but you fail to make any form of one. The fact that you're trying to blame the Dutch here (for bringing over 19 slaves from a seized Spanish ship) for the systematic enslavement of people supported and encouraged by the US government is beyond me. Secondly, the slaves that the Dutch brought over were baptized by the Spanish which exempted them from slave work (and thus, they weren't really slaves at all in the US).

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RE[2]: Poverty rates
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 7th Apr 2014 21:48 in reply to "RE: Poverty rates"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I don't want to go to deep into this, since the OP only wanted to insult, but the Dutch involvement in the slave trade - a gigantic crime against humanity - should not be, in any way, swept under the rug, or made less. Us Dutch have contributed greatly to this crime, and while it may have been a long time ago, the reverberations of it can be felt all over the world to this very day - including in the United States.

The OP's intentions with bringing it up may have been cloudy, but the point in and of itself is a valid one. The Netherlands' role in the slave trade is something our schools would rather not dive into too much, but every historian knows what's up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery#Netherlands

That's the end of this particular subject. Back to technology please.

Edited 2014-04-07 21:49 UTC

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RE: Poverty rates
by Soulbender on Tue 8th Apr 2014 05:07 in reply to "Poverty rates"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

How about you guys give the country back to the American Indians?

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