Linked by Adam S on Thu 12th Jun 2014 23:36 UTC
Android

I am taking the plunge and moving from an iPhone to an Android device. I've been waiting a long time for Android to get to the point that it was fast and responsive enough, with a big enough application warehouse, wide enough support, and a smooth enough experience, to support me. Android is maturing with a consistent, system-wide look-and-feel, almost every major service now has an Android app as the counterpart to its iOS-first experience, and has a bright future with wearables, home automation, and more.

I certainly won't be the first person to change ecosystems entirely. Several have done it before, some looking for change or claim freedom, some aiming to save money, some because someone prompted them, some think they may be conforming by going with the ever-stylish Apple. I am doing it for this reason: for me, Android is now a better platform than iOS.

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RE: Comment by olejon
by Adam S on Fri 13th Jun 2014 11:08 UTC in reply to "Comment by olejon"
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That still requires the content to be in iTunes, it just doesn't require the whole Sync process. I'm trying to get my kids' content out of my iTunes, particularly huge movies that have to be converted into an iTunes friendly format, then stored in my Library.

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RE[2]: Comment by olejon
by darknexus on Sat 14th Jun 2014 05:16 in reply to "RE: Comment by olejon"
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2008-07-15

That still requires the content to be in iTunes, it just doesn't require the whole Sync process. I'm trying to get my kids' content out of my iTunes, particularly huge movies that have to be converted into an iTunes friendly format, then stored in my Library.

I hate iTunes as well (at least the PC and Mac side application), however there is one upside to it supporting a limited range of formats on the mobile device itself, and that is hardware acceleration. True, Android can play damn near anything you throw at it. So can iOS, with the right apps such as Goodplayer (though getting data on and off some of those apps is more complicated than it needs to be). However, what I quickly realized was that if I attempt to play a format that is not hardware accelerated (regardless of platform) I get a massive battery drain in the case of videos. I knew it would drain the battery faster, but just how much faster came as quite a shock. It's much less so for audio only media, of course. However, without looking up your hardware specs for your Android device (if they even tell you) you really have no idea what formats can be accelerated. It varies from device to device. At least with iDevices, it's quite clear cut which formats are supported by the hardware and which ones are not and you can decide what to convert and what to leave unchanged.

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RE[3]: Comment by olejon
by _txf_ on Sat 14th Jun 2014 14:05 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by olejon"
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2008-03-17


I hate iTunes as well (at least the PC and Mac side application), however there is one upside to it supporting a limited range of formats on the mobile device itself, and that is hardware acceleration.



The thing if an iDevice does not like the container, it insists on completely converting the media file, regardless if the encoding is the same.

Either way most common formats are hardware accelerated, so there shouldn't be any need for that nonsense on most files.

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RE[2]: Comment by olejon
by weckart on Sat 14th Jun 2014 20:31 in reply to "RE: Comment by olejon"
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2006-01-11

It doesn't if you select to manually manage your devices. It just needs iTunes to mount the iOS FS so that media can be copied over. I just drag and drop from Finder onto my device's icon in iTunes after having deselected autoimporting into iTunes. Not a single piece of media has been added into my iTunes database.

Maybe it doesn't work as well under Windows but in OSX there is no problem.

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RE[3]: Comment by olejon
by darknexus on Sun 15th Jun 2014 04:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by olejon"
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2008-07-15

Maybe it doesn't work as well under Windows but in OSX there is no problem.

That's a partial solution only. I still can't pull my media back off the device unless it was purchased through the iTunes Store. Plus, only certain types of media can be managed that way (music, videos, and photos). Plus might I remind you that files must be converted into appropriate formats? This is not real drag and drop management.
Brings up an interesting question though, why the hell can't we just mount the damn thing in the Finder? All this tight integration and yet they haven't managed something that obvious.

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