Linked by jessesmith on Wed 5th Nov 2014 10:39 UTC
Linux Over the past year I've been reading a lot of opinions on the new init technology, systemd. Some people think systemd is wonderful, the bee's knees. Others claim that systemd is broken by design. Some see systemd as a unifying force, a way to unite the majority of the Linux distributions. Others see systemd as a growing blob that is slowly becoming an overly large portion of the operating system. One thing that has surprised me a little is just how much people care about systemd, whether their opinion of the technology is good or bad. People in favour faithfully (and sometimes falsely) make wonderful claims about what systemd is and what it can supposedly do. Opponents claim systemd will divide the Linux community and drive many technical users to other operating systems. There is a lot of hype and surprisingly few people presenting facts.
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Where is the EBCDIC option?
by tomz on Wed 5th Nov 2014 12:34 UTC
tomz
Member since:
2010-05-06

I'm forced to use ASCII.

Systemd v.s. other "init" (and they don't just init and go away) is like the kernel itself, so fundamental you can't just change that part.

I haven't been looking in enough depth, but my only worries is if the code is a too complex to be secure or reliable blob, and if there is a community and not just one vendor.

A good article that I think sums it up: http://www.zdnet.com/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-systemd-70...

Linux is a monolithic, not microkernel, but it is well engineered and clear. Systemd is monolithic but needs work to be more than a desktop underlay

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RE: Where is the EBCDIC option?
by theosib on Wed 5th Nov 2014 13:54 in reply to "Where is the EBCDIC option?"
theosib Member since:
2006-03-02

Systemd is not monolithic. People who haven't actually bothered to learn about how it works and what role it fills need to go do that before they continuing throwing fuel onto the fire.

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acobar Member since:
2005-11-15

It is not monolithic but it has tight coupling, what many see as almost the same.

I like the system services initialization part but would prefer if the strong interdependency was dropped.

Anyway, it is the best init system we have right now and reality always trumps ideals.

Well keep an eye on uselessd anyway. ;)

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hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

The protocol between the various "parts" may well be a black box unless you feel like parsing the complete source of systemd. They may be seen as different processes by the kernel, but they are joined at the hip by requirement of having systemd as pid1 and intermediary.

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