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Linux Over the past year I've been reading a lot of opinions on the new init technology, systemd. Some people think systemd is wonderful, the bee's knees. Others claim that systemd is broken by design. Some see systemd as a unifying force, a way to unite the majority of the Linux distributions. Others see systemd as a growing blob that is slowly becoming an overly large portion of the operating system. One thing that has surprised me a little is just how much people care about systemd, whether their opinion of the technology is good or bad. People in favour faithfully (and sometimes falsely) make wonderful claims about what systemd is and what it can supposedly do. Opponents claim systemd will divide the Linux community and drive many technical users to other operating systems. There is a lot of hype and surprisingly few people presenting facts.
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RE[7]: A cople of comments.
by crystall on Sun 9th Nov 2014 21:39 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: A cople of comments."
crystall
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2007-02-06

I never claimed or hinted that you are a part of said "oppressed anti-systemd developers and users", its for *you* to decide if you belong to said group,

You're compeltely off way. You said that I failed to to explain what stops the million of oppressed anti-systemd developers and users from forking the latest non-systemd distribution. Except that I've never mentioned "oppressed anti-systemd developers" nor suggested that they should fork it. You just pulled that ridiculous term out of thin air.

and the mere fact that you turned an honest question (one which you continuously refuse to answer)

Why should I answer it? I never mentioned them nor brought up the idea of forking systemd.

into a *perceived* personal insult and a reason to start trading personal insults, puts you square in the middle of this said group.

Posting this from Fedora 20. I've been using Fedora as my main distribution since Fedora 8 thus I've been using systemd for a *long* while, even when it had some pretty rough edges.

You sir are a fanboy, and one so blinded by your fanboism that you didn't even bother to read my posts otherwise you'd know this already since I've already mentioned I had been using a systemd-based distro. Heck, in my first post I even explicitly said that systemd has its merits but that went way over your head.

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RE[8]: A cople of comments.
by gilboa on Sun 9th Nov 2014 22:19 in reply to "RE[7]: A cople of comments."
gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

You sir are a fanboy, and one so blinded by your fanboism that you didn't even bother to read my posts otherwise you'd know this already since I've already mentioned I had been using a systemd-based distro. Heck, in my first post I even explicitly said that systemd has its merits but that went way over your head.


Ignoring a long list of rude personal insults... Blah Blah Blah.
Let me start by saying that I don't really care if you're using Fedora 20, 19, RHEL or work for RedHat. As shocking as it may seem to you, this question and non-of-the-posts above aren't about *you personally*.

In a last ditch effort to treat you like a gown up that can actually answer simple questions with simple answers without degrading this discussion into a flame fest, let me ask again.
And for the love of God, try to be civil, shell we?

Lets assume that I'm a stupid fanboy and that your superior intellect far exceeds my meager ability to understand your super-human posts, forcing you to use big words and talk s*l*o*w*l*y.

Let me reiterate my question: OSS was founded by people with an itch to scratch. Assuming that there are indeed *many* (here, dropped the millions) people who really, really, really dislike system as it goes against everything that is true and sacred (dropped the oppressed), how come we've yet to see any real effort to create a real, modern base system infrastructure that rivals systemd?

And before you point a finger at RedHat, keep in mind that Microsoft/IBM together with the large Unix players ruled the world unequivocally when Linus Torvald released a playground OS in an obscure ML.

Remember: Systemd Itch, no one (besides RedHat) wants to scratch even though forums are full of itchy people. Why?

- Gilboa
Oh... Needless to say, I won't even bother to read your post if you continue use childish insults. (And fanboy? Really? This is the best you can do? Ran out of "your mamma" insults?)

Edited 2014-11-09 22:32 UTC

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