Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 19th Nov 2005 16:52 UTC, submitted by chrishaney
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu The first preview release of (K)Ubuntu 6.04 Dapper Drake has been released. You can download Ubuntu here, and Kubuntu here. Screenshots can be found here and here.
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RE[3]: Mod points
by on Sun 20th Nov 2005 12:17 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Mod points"

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If funny that you cannot come up with anything other than to reflect my comments off the subject
No what I try to achieve is to get a discussion going that does not simply repeat buzzwords, but contains actual information, as this is the only way that anything can actually achieved.

, you make it sound like KDE is perfect.
That was not my intention, and I do not believe that most people will see it that way. The intenion of that comment was to try to get you to verbalize your specific problems with KDE so that these can be discussed.

Even the devs are not happy with KDE since most of the time it's been redesigned so many times
Do you know how many times the Mercedes Benz has been redesigned? (Not that I would compare KDE to that car, it is just supposed to act as an example)

Every time you design/implement/create something you learn. You see parts that work out differently than you anticipated, see parts that might have been achieved better or simply learned that you have made a wrong choice somewhere. The result of this process is that you would like to change it to the better. Hence the redesign.

I do not believe perfection can be achieved, so there is always place to improvement. Personally I would rather be alarmed if something does not change. (I know some people value stability higher than improvement, but this is a question of values, not of right/wrong or good/bad)

GNOME has stayed the same since early days showing the design was sound in the first place
Another possible explanation would be that they just stick to the design out of conveniece or dislike of change. (Again purely speculative and not meant as an attack.)

KDE4 a redesign of something thats already wrong.
Why would you redesign something that is right? I believe that the community of KDE sees room for improvement, and grasps this chance to actually implements it. I cannot see a problem with that. People are not forced to upgrade to KDE4, after all it is open source. They could stick to KDE3 for as long as they like.

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