Linked by Andrew Youll on Tue 19th Jul 2005 15:57 UTC
Original OSNews Interviews PC-BSD 0.7.8 has been released and I also recently conducted an interview with PC-BSD Project leader Kris Moore.
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RE[2]: Looks awesome
by on Tue 19th Jul 2005 18:38 UTC in reply to "RE: Looks awesome"

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>Yes, that's very clever. Not only clever, but awesome >and gorgeous: If there's a bug in a library, not only >one package needs to be fixed, but dozens.

>It's the best feature that one could copy from Microsoft >Windows[TM]. Apart from that, there are enough UNIX >operating systems for x86 computers.

ahhh no. You're right about each package but as far as there being enough UNIX OS's for x86.... hmmm.. who makes that determination... you?

Sounds like sour grapes to me. At least this guy is trying to do something original and attempt to solve problems.

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RE[3]: Looks awesome
by on Tue 19th Jul 2005 19:00 in reply to "RE[2]: Looks awesome"
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This really is a double standard. Suppose Windows used a system similar to ports. Could you imagine the outcry if microsoft was able to upgrade the libs of all your various software on your box? Talk about crazy, this would drive me nuts! Everybody would hate microsoft's guts for it ;) But with *nix its ok to do it?

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RE[4]: Looks awesome
by on Tue 19th Jul 2005 19:06 in reply to "RE[3]: Looks awesome"
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They (Microsoft) does do just that.
They invented the dependency hell.

Again, it sounds like there's more of an axe to grind here than you're letting on perhaps?

If zlib has a security flaw, upgrade zlib and then have the package application recompile the apps that rely on zlib. It's not hard.

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RE[4]: Looks awesome
by jziegler on Tue 19th Jul 2005 21:46 in reply to "RE[3]: Looks awesome"
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2005-07-14

Well, Microsoft does the very same, with their security updates.

debian:
aptitude checks available packages in a central repository, checks which need to be installed on the system, downloads and installs them. you can see the list of installed packages, when you run aptitude.

ms:
windowsupdate checks available patches in a central repository, checks which need to be installed on the system, download and installs them. you can see the list of installed patches in control panel / something.

if you are running a stable version of debian, you only receive security updates.

the only difference is that debian is your vendor for your os, office applications, games, browsers, sound editors, movie players, etc - almost all of the software installed. ms is your vendor for only a part of the software installed.

with a bit of abstraction, you can see, that ms is already using a package-manager + central repository to distribute a part of their software.

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