Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Nov 2016 23:13 UTC
Internet & Networking

With the US presidential elections right behind us, there's been a lot of talk about the role platforms like Facebook and Twitter have in our modern discourse. Last week, it was revealed that teens in Macedonia earns thousands of dollars each month by posting patently false stories about the elections on Facebook and getting them to go viral. With Facebook being a major source of news for a lot of people, such false stories can certainly impact people's voting behaviour.

In a statement to TechCrunch, Facebook responded to the criticism that the company isn't doing enough to stop this kind of thing. The statement in full reads:

We take misinformation on Facebook very seriously. We value authentic communication, and hear consistently from those who use Facebook that they prefer not to see misinformation. In Newsfeed we use various signals based on community feedback to determine which posts are likely to contain inaccurate information, and reduce their distribution. In Trending we look at a variety of signals to help make sure the topics being shown are reflective of real-world events, and take additional steps to prevent false or misleading content from appearing. Despite these efforts we understand there's so much more we need to do, and that is why it's important that we keep improving our ability to detect misinformation. We're committed to continuing to work on this issue and improve the experiences on our platform.

This is an incredibly complex issue.

First, Facebook is a private entity, and has no legal obligation to be the arbiter of truth, save for complying with court orders during, say, a defamation or libel lawsuit by a wronged party. If someone posts a false story that Clinton kicked a puppy or that Trump punched a kitten, but none of the parties involved take any steps, Facebook is under no obligation - other than perhaps one of morality - to remove or prevent such stories from being posted.

Second, what, exactly, is truth? While it's easy to say that "the earth is flat" is false and misinformation, how do you classify stories of rape and sexual assault allegations levelled at a president-elect - and everything in between? What if you shove your false stories in a book, build a fancy building, slap a tax exempt status on it, and call it a religion? There's countless "legitimate" ways in which people sell lies and nonsense to literally billions of people, and we deem that completely normal and acceptable. Where do you draw the line, and more importantly, who draws that line?

Third, how, exactly, do we propose handling these kinds of bans? Spreading news stories online is incredibly easy, and I doubt even Facebook itself could truly 'stop' a story from spreading on its platform. Is Facebook supposed to pass every post and comment through its own Department of Truth?

Fourth, isn't spreading information - even false information - a basic human need that you can't suppress? Each and every one of us spreads misinformation at one or more points in our lives - we gossip, we think we saw something, we misinterpreted someone's actions, you name it. Sure, platforms like Facebook can potentially amplify said misinformation uncontrollably, but do we really want to put a blanket moratorium on "misinformation", seeing as how difficult it it is to define the term?

We are only now coming to grips with the realities of social media elections, but as a politics nerd, I'd be remiss if I didn't raise my hand and reminded you of an eerily similar situation the US political world found itself in in the aftermath of the 26 September, 1960 debate between sitting vice president Nixon and a relatively unknown senator from Massachusetts, John F. Kennedy.

It was the first televised debate in US history. While people who listened to the debate on the radio declared Nixon the winner, people who watched the debate on television declared Kennedy the winner. While Nixon appeared sickly and sweaty, Kennedy looked fresh, calm, and confident. The visual impact was massive, and it changed the course of the elections. Televised debates are completely normal now, and every presidential candidate needs to be prepared for them - but up until 1960, it wasn't a factor at all.

Social media will be no different. Four years from now, when Tulsi Gabbard heads the Democratic ticket (you heard it here first - mark my words) versus incumbent Trump, both candidates will have a far better grasp on social media and how to use them than Clinton and Trump did this year.

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RE: I doubt it
by galvanash on Fri 11th Nov 2016 05:57 UTC in reply to "I doubt it"
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Tulsi Gabbard will be 39 in 2020. The mean age of US Presidents-elect is 55. Only 2 Presidents have been under 45.

This is actually interesting...

She is not a "natural born citizen" by the common definition. She was born in American Somoa, the daughter of a US citizen (mother) and a native of American Somoa (father). American Somoa is one of the only US territories in which being born there does not grant US citizenship. Technically, she is a naturalized citizen, and is ineligible to run for the Presidency (she was granted citizenship at age 1).

There was actually a Supreme Court case on the docket to change this back in June, but the court declined to hear it, so the current non-citizenship status for American Somoa stands.

The constitution would have to be amended for her to even run for president. In fact I don't understand how she was on the write-in ballot in California as VP for Bernie - I don't think she could have served if she had won.

Anyway, I have nothing particular against her. Just saying, I don't see how that could even be possible...

I think Thom will be disappointed in 4 years (as usual). The likely head of the ticket will be Elizabeth Warren (you heard it here first).

EDIT: Ill leave this here so everyone can ridicule me... I misread the widipedia article. Her FATHER became a citizen at age 1, not her... So both her parents are US citizens. Therefore she is a natural born citizen and there is no issue with her running.

Edited 2016-11-11 06:10 UTC

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RE[2]: I doubt it
by LGordon on Fri 11th Nov 2016 11:47 in reply to "RE: I doubt it"
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Actually, it's her father who became a citizen at age one ( She became a citizen at birth by virtue of her mother being a citizen (similar to McCain being born in Panama, Cruz born in Canada)

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RE[3]: I doubt it
by LGordon on Fri 11th Nov 2016 12:57 in reply to "RE[2]: I doubt it"
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Ha - didn't read your edit comment until after I posted

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RE[2]: I doubt it
by darknexus on Fri 11th Nov 2016 14:20 in reply to "RE: I doubt it"
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Anyone else think this is stupid? As if being born in the US--something over which a person had no control--should bar them from anything once they're naturalized or legal. Isn't that discrimination at the highest levels? It's how I've always thought of it, and I was born here.

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