Linked by KLU9 on Mon 13th Feb 2017 22:58 UTC
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The news is that after 15 years the IMDb is closing down its message boards, but the story is their creation in the first place: a tale of Apache, mod_perl, PostgreSQL, C, and XEMacs, all served up on a BeOS bun in a Bristol-area cafeteria; of missed deadlines, missed opportunities and misplaced innocence given the scale of comments, comment spam and trolling up to that point. Brought to you by Colin M. Strickland, a developer whose CV has long read "you can blame me for the message boards" (and yes, he does go by the initials cms).

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RE: Too bad
by Rugxulo on Tue 14th Feb 2017 00:14 UTC in reply to "Too bad"
Rugxulo
Member since:
2007-10-09

It's really a shame about shutting down those boards


What did we expect? Random "fans" talking about mindless entertainment isn't exactly a crucial technical discussion. It's not important or necessary for society to function.

The irony is that all of the same users will just go elsewhere, and they'll end up with the same problems.

but I imagine moderating them must've been a nightmare, with all the trolls and douchebags who inevitably show up to the party. It's just another example of why we can't have nice things.


That is a HUGE understatement. While I only casually browsed, silently, out of (morbid) curiosity, things had really devolved in recent years.

It was a P.R. nightmare because every actor/actress was constantly under attack, almost always for off-topic (political, religious, private/personal, etc.) reasons. I'll bet the lawyers got involved. It really was that bad, and it wasn't just harmless opinions but full-on libel, hate speech, and even character assassination.

Seriously, there's just no other way to view it. It was a tool (mis)used to piss others off and destroy people's reputations. Of course you can't exactly avoid or fix that, the Internet is too big, but it just attracted the wrong crowd. It wasn't for movie fans to discuss their favorite shows but moreso for angry and dejected psychos with an axe to grind.

Seriously, it was VERY easy to find such contentious discussions. I don't know if it's the era we live in or what, but the world has really lost it's marbles, everyone is angry and almost encouraged to attack others. It's impossible not to pity some people who live under such heavy public scrutiny.

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RE[2]: Too bad
by Alfman on Tue 14th Feb 2017 01:56 in reply to "RE: Too bad"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Rugxulo,

What did we expect? Random "fans" talking about mindless entertainment isn't exactly a crucial technical discussion. It's not important or necessary for society to function.

The irony is that all of the same users will just go elsewhere, and they'll end up with the same problems.



I think it depends a lot on the target audience. I would think some are inherently more mature, I'm thinking back to the dice job boards for IT professionals. It was nice to be able to hold discussions with other professionals like myself. While there were disagreements in the community, for many years it operated smoothly enough IMHO.

In the end, that community was ruined too, but it wasn't because of what you'd think. Dice themselves hired some evangelical "moderators" to steer the discussions and this was when the community really devolved. They decided freedom of speech wasn't in their interests, they even banned me for asking why they were censoring innocent posters who had not violated any TOS. Eventually the entire board got taken down because their own moderation ruined it.

I've never had to moderate a community, I guess it's hard to strike a balance. I probably wouldn't be a good moderator because I like to be involved in the discussion ;) I think it's best to have very light moderation, although on huge public boards where there are thousands/millions of users, I don't suppose there's any easy solution.

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RE[3]: Too bad
by Lennie on Wed 15th Feb 2017 12:41 in reply to "RE[2]: Too bad"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Moderating for a large audience is almost impossible. I like how Slashdot had people which had high scores be able to do some moderation. I like the idea, not sure if it always had a good effect.

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RE[2]: Too bad
by WorknMan on Tue 14th Feb 2017 02:01 in reply to "RE: Too bad"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Random "fans" talking about mindless entertainment isn't exactly a crucial technical discussion.


I mostly agree with you, though movies with real substance could spark some interesting conversations. Plus, it was a handy place for me to go if I watched a movie and had a question about the plot, or whatever.

I don't know if it's the era we live in or what, but the world has really lost it's marbles, everyone is angry and almost encouraged to attack others. It's impossible not to pity some people who live under such heavy public scrutiny.


People have always been angry. The anonymity of the Internet just gives them an outlet to vent. You want to stop the trolls and hate speech? Then make real identities on the Internet mandatory. I think that's the only way to accomplish it, because asking them nicely ain't gonna do shit.

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RE[3]: Too bad
by Alfman on Tue 14th Feb 2017 02:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Too bad"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

WorknMan,

People have always been angry. The anonymity of the Internet just gives them an outlet to vent. You want to stop the trolls and hate speech? Then make real identities on the Internet mandatory. I think that's the only way to accomplish it, because asking them nicely ain't gonna do shit.


I don't know about that, there are plenty of people being overtly hateful in real life with no anonymity at all.

Secondly, I usually refuse to sign up with a real identity because I object to being tracked more than absolutely necessary. For sites requiring mandatory info, I sign up with garbage information. Judge me if you want, but when employers or anybody looks me up, what I do/say in my private life is none of their damned business!

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