Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 12th Sep 2017 19:30 UTC
Apple

Apple held its iPhone event today, but since the three major leaks got everything right - read our previous items on the leaks to get the full details - there's really not much to add here, other than the pricing for the new iPhones. The 'regular' iPhone 8 will be about €50 more expensive this year, so take that into account when planning your upgrade. The iPhone X (pronounced "ten" by Apple, "ex" by people with good taste), however, carries a very hefty pricetag, especially in Europe and the UK - the base 64GB model is $999 in the US, and a staggering €1159 in Europe (and an equally staggering £999 in the UK).

I think it's definitely a nice looking phone, and can certainly hold its own against other small-bezel phones from Samsung, LG, and others (especially others), but especially outside of the US, that's one hell of a price tag. Going over the magic €1000 mark feels like crossing a psychological threshold from high-end brand new smartphone territory into high-end brand new laptop territory, and that's a tough pill to swallow.

The additional problem here is that the iPhone 8 simply looks outdated compared to all the minimal bezel phones of this year, and certainly so next to the iPhone X in stores for the iOS users among us. I'm up for contract renewal, and since I'm the kind of person to switch platforms about once a year, I was definitely interested in switching to iOS again by buying the iPhone X. However, that €1159 price tag is way, way beyond the outer limit of my comfort zone.

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RE: Boring
by Troels on Tue 12th Sep 2017 20:07 UTC in reply to "Boring"
Troels
Member since:
2005-07-11

Hah, had almost forgotten about the TV and Watch, so yeah, lots of arm waving for making the Apple TV not be outdated. Not sure why i would want to pick that over a Chromecast Ultra though, I really like the way there is no device to control with the Chromecast, it just magically does its thing. Okay, it can't play games like the new Apple TV, but is there anyone who cares about games that doesn't already have a more powerful platform for that?

I really want to like the watch, more shiny gadgets = better, right? right!?

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RE[2]: Boring
by darknexus on Tue 12th Sep 2017 22:22 in reply to "RE: Boring"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Different use cases I suppose. If I had a TV, I'd prefer the Apple TV over the Chromecast because it can do its own thing without needing my phone or tablet to help it, and yet can accept help from another device in those instances when it does. With the Chromecast, I'd always be controlling it with another device, eating through another battery. Too, the Apple TV can accept Airplay lossless audio from any device which supports that, whereas the chromecast can only mirror from Chrome or stream apps Google has chosen to support. Just goes to show, competition is good.

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RE[3]: Boring
by Alfman on Wed 13th Sep 2017 07:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Boring"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

darknexus,

Different use cases I suppose. If I had a TV, I'd prefer the Apple TV over the Chromecast because it can do its own thing without needing my phone or tablet to help it, and yet can accept help from another device in those instances when it does. With the Chromecast, I'd always be controlling it with another device, eating through another battery. Too, the Apple TV can accept Airplay lossless audio from any device which supports that, whereas the chromecast can only mirror from Chrome or stream apps Google has chosen to support. Just goes to show, competition is good.



Does apple TV force you to connect through goog^H^H^H^H apple's servers? That's a pretty big gripe I have with google's offerings. They could have done something like widi, but instead they designed chromecast to be dependent upon their servers so they could collect more user data. Not only do I consider this unethical, but it resulted in some pretty stupid engineering compromises like inability to connect locally when the internet is out.

It's also a major criticism I have for smart phones in general. I've amassed a large collection of personal media over the years but google and apple seem adamant to keep the experience crappy for local media and storage. Just let me access my files directly like a normal os! I don't want to stream everything from the internet, least of all my personal files! Having to search for this functionality at the app level is jarring, every app handles it differently, if at all.

Edit: not sure about apple tv, will it play files off the local network?

Edited 2017-09-13 07:11 UTC

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