Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Oct 2017 10:42 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Over the weekend, people with review units of the Pixel 2 XL began noticing a problem. No, not the already-known issues of muddy color and grainy textures when viewed in low-light, but one that's potentially more worrisome: screen burn-in. First reported on Twitter by Android Central's Alex Dobie, multiple people have noticed that when you look at the screen with a gray background, you can see faint outlines of the phone's navigation buttons on the bottom.

You can see it below, and I can confirm I'm seeing something similar on my own review unit.

The display problems of the Pixel 2 XL - due to its LG-made panel - are baffling. Google claims it's getting serious about hardware, but putting a panel in your flagship phone that isn't only sub-par when it's working, but is also showing burn-in after mere days of use, is wholly and utterly inexcusable. This is not a budget, €150 phone - this is a flagship phone with a flagship price, and consumers deserve better than this clearly garbage display.

Another year, another round of flagships, another year of the iPhone simply being the best all-round option for most, normal people. For most average, normal people, the iPhone will give them an easy-to-use, secure, and updated phone with a decent resale value two to three years down the line. Additionally, Apple Stores or official Apple retailers are widespread, so you often have easy access to in-person customer service.

Samsung/HTC/LG phones don't get updates - or only six months after the fact - but carry the same flagship price, often leaving their users with insecure and out of date software. The Nexus program no longer exists, and Google's Pixel phones are only available in like 2 countries, and on top of that, its flagship model has a display worse than my Palm T|X. The Android market is in a terrible state right now.

Anybody who doesn't care about software and hardware the way most of us do is, years and years in, still best served by an iPhone. Depending on budget, get an iPhone 6S, 7, or 8 (forget the ridiculously overpriced iPhone X); the Android world simply doesn't have a phone that can compete with any of those three - and that's a sad state of affairs. Google has been wholly unable to address the biggest problems Android suffers from - most notably, updates - and we're way past the point where this can be excused without really scraping the bottom of the barrel of excuses.

Suggesting non-nerdy, regular people get an Android phone at this point in time is simply irresponsible.

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RE[2]: Sony Xperia XA1 Ultra
by avgalen on Mon 23rd Oct 2017 13:09 UTC in reply to "RE: Sony Xperia XA1 Ultra"
avgalen
Member since:
2010-09-23

Thom: You still don't seem to understand how Android security updates work. They are mostly separated from the OS and coming through the playstore. That doesn't mean that his phone is secure, but neither is an iPhone: https://www.macrumors.com/2017/10/16/krack-wifi-vulnerabilities-patc...
^^Note that it says the vulnerability is patched "in betas that are currently available to developers and will be rolling out to consumers soon. "

There is no doubt that the Android situation about updates is far worse than that from Apple but that doesn't seem like something that most people care about (much).

(P.S. I am neither an Android or iPhone user. I use a 4 year old Nokia Lumia 1520 with that "dead" OS that actually got patched before Android and iOS. Just let me gloat about that anomaly while I cry about losing my banking app okay?)

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RE[3]: Sony Xperia XA1 Ultra
by Poseidon on Tue 24th Oct 2017 02:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Sony Xperia XA1 Ultra"
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2009-10-31

No, that's objectively not true. The kernel or firmware of your android does not get updated even as close as the ones in Apple's devices. This means low level functions and core operating system functions are exposed, regardless of how patched your apps are.

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RE[4]: Sony Xperia XA1 Ultra
by avgalen on Tue 24th Oct 2017 07:54 in reply to "RE[3]: Sony Xperia XA1 Ultra"
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2010-09-23

No, that's objectively not true.

What is objectively not true? My statement was that both Android and iOS are insecure at the moment because of, among other things, unpatched Krack. My other statement was that the update situation on Android is far worse than on iOS. Both are objectively true.

The kernel or firmware of your android does not get updated even as close as the ones in Apple's devices.

I said I am a Windows Phone user and my 4 year old phone just got the 10.0.15063.674 update, just as it gets its monthly update every month (or more).

This means low level functions and core operating system functions are exposed, regardless of how patched your apps are.

You are correct about the very bottom of the software stack which is only updated with OS-level patches which are much more rare on Android than on iOS. But these patches don't have to be from 7 to 8 (new features) but can also be from 7 to 7.01 (just bugfixes) and those patches are much more common on Android (although still lacking). It is only very rarely that a bug on this level is actually exposed in a way that can be taken advantage of by apps because those apps mostly talk to middle layers that do get updated or those apps get blocked/banned from the store. For example many apps use Google Play Services.
The Google Play services APK is delivered through the Google Play Store, so updates to the services are not dependent on carrier or OEM system image updates. In general, devices running Android 2.3 (API level 9) or later and have the Google Play services app installed receive updates within a few days. This allows you to use the newest APIs in Google Play services and reach most of the devices in the Android ecosystem.

(source https://developers.google.com/android/guides/overview)

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