Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Dec 2017 23:04 UTC
Apple

Mark Gurman:

Starting as early as next year, software developers will be able to design a single application that works with a touchscreen or mouse and trackpad depending on whether it's running on the iPhone and iPad operating system or on Mac hardware, according to people familiar with the matter.

Developers currently must design two different apps - one for iOS, the operating system of Apple's mobile devices, and one for macOS, the system that runs Macs. That's a lot more work. What's more, Apple customers have long complained that some Mac apps get short shrift. For example, while the iPhone and iPad Twitter app is regularly updated with the social network's latest features, the Mac version hasn't been refreshed recently and is widely considered substandard. With a single app for all machines, Mac, iPad and iPhone users will get new features and updates at the same time.

Apple currently plans to begin rolling out the change as part of next fall's major iOS and macOS updates, said the people, who requested anonymity to discuss an internal matter. The secret project, codenamed "Marzipan", is one of the tentpole additions for next year's Apple software road map. Theoretically, the plan could be announced as early as the summer at the company's annual developers conference if the late 2018 release plan remains on track. Apple's plans are still fluid, the people said, so the implementation could change or the project could still be canceled.

This is a massive change in Apple's direction. The company and its supporters have always held fast to the concept that there should be two distinct and different operating systems with two distinct and different user interfaces, very much the opposite of what Microsoft is still trying to do with Windows Metro applications and their Surface line-up. This change is basically a complete embrace of Microsoft's vision for the future of computing.

This will have tremendous consequences for both iOS and macOS. For iOS, it probably means we get more advanced, fuller-featured applications, and I think this also pretty much confirms we're going to see a mouse pointer and trackpad/mouse support on iOS in the very near future - just as I predicted earlier this year. For macOS, it might mean a broader base of applications to choose from, but also possibly a dumbing-down of existing applications. A number of Apple applications already work very much like the article states, and they certainly lost functionality on the macOS side of things.

On the more speculative side, this could be the next step in deprecating macOS, which is, in my unfounded opinion, still Apple's ultimate goal here. Note how Apple isn't bringing macOS applications to iOS, but vice versa. Make of that what you will, but I wouldn't have too much faith in the long term viability of macOS as a platform distinct and separate from iOS.

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gsyoungblood
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2007-01-09

The world has gone topsy turvy. Or so it would seem.

My work horse of a machine, an early 2011 15" Mac Book Pro, finally has some major video card problems and has stability issues. I'm forced to use my backup, a more recent 13" MBP until I get a new machine. After looking around I'm probably going to get two machines, a 2012 MBP (last year you could upgrade/user maintain them) and a new windows machine. [I'm eyeing the Eve V, as well as the Microsoft Surface Laptop and the latest Surface Book.]

I find it amusing that one of the big draws I've had for Mac has been the overall stability combined with the unix under the hood. I do a lot of remote work, server admin, and programming. I spend a lot of time on command lines, so that unix foundation is important to me. Still, it's been a long while since "It just works" has been applicable for Apple. I switched to Mac when I went on my own and time fiddling with a Linux or Windows desktop environment was painful (unbillable). At the time, it did just work. Now, though, not so much. Lately I have had to deal with unexpected reboots, hung processes, and random freezes (on both machines) for the last 2-3 years. Not to mention the "upgrades" removing (or hiding) features.

Now, with Windows 10 having Linux available, and now an SSH daemon and client, some of the Unix pieces are now available on Windows very easily. I still don't care for Windows, but given what Apple has been doing to Mac OS, and seems to be continuing to do -- I think this combination of iOS and macOS is just the beginning -- I'm looking seriously at the Windows environments now.

As for why I don't look at Linux -- well, I also do photography and other graphic related work, and need a system that supports the Adobe tools, so I'm pretty much locked to either Mac or Windows.

I still can't believe I'm looking seriously at Windows though. The world has truly gone crazy. Or maybe just me. ;)

Edited 2017-12-21 02:43 UTC

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nicubunu Member since:
2014-01-08

I do photography for a living with some other graphic work on the side and I use Linux. Of course, not with Adobe tools ;)
True, darktable, which is my main workhorse, is available for macOS too (soon, as in the next release, also for Windows), so I could switch but I don't want to.

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gsyoungblood Member since:
2007-01-09

I've become spoiled by the Lightroom and Photoshop combination, not just for photo manipulation but also image management and some of the work flows it can support.

How does darktable compare to the Lightroom/Photoshop pairing? The new Lightroom CC and Lightroom Classic CC is confusing, somethings you want to use Lightroom CC and but some things (like shooting tethered) you still need what they now call Lightroom Classic CC. And they're pushing their cloud service more, especially with Lightroom. I'm not too fond of the direction Adobe is going, and if I could fight a good workflow that let me break away and also opened the lock-in to Apple/Microsoft duopoly all the better.

Also, some of the media production outfits use a special tool that you build your order and upload your images with. I forget the name (i haven't needed to use them for a while, and they're on the old machine anyway) - but it seems several places use branded versions of the same tool. If it's java based then that won't be a problem, but I can't remember. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Finally, do you do any of your own printing? Do you have problems with quality drivers for the photo printers? I'm not talking about the all-in-ones or desktop, but the larger photo prints from Epson or Canon that can do larger images and/or depending on model use roll paper.

thanks

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