Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Jan 2018 17:51 UTC
Windows

Microsoft is making a bigger push to keep students and teachers using Windows this week. At the annual Bett education show in London, Microsoft is revealing new Windows 10 and Windows 10 S devices that are priced from just $189. The software giant is also partnering with the BBC, LEGO, NASA, PBS, and Pearson to bring a variety of Mixed Reality and video curricula to schools.

Lenovo has created a $189 100e laptop. It’s based on Intel’s Celeron Apollo Lake chips, so it’s a low-cost netbook essentially, designed for schools. Lenovo is also introducing its 300e, a 2-in-1 laptop with pen support, priced at $279. The new Lenovo devices are joined by two from JP, with a Windows Hello laptop priced at $199 and a pen and touch device at $299. All four laptops will be targeted towards education, designed to convince schools not to switch to Chromebooks.

I'm not sure if these wil persuade schools away from Chromebooks, but assuming non-education customers can get them as well, they may be great little machines for running secondary operating systems on.

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2 hours
by CaptainN- on Tue 23rd Jan 2018 03:44 UTC
CaptainN-
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2005-07-07

I spent two hours at the Doc's office, while 4 nurses tried to get a machine to work, when Windows wouldn't recognize it while plugged in (two different machines, two different devices). It reminded me of when I move my printer cable from one USB port on my Windows machine, to another. IT REINSTALL THE DRIVERS! Slowly. Linux and OSX on the same machine never have a problem like that (not saying it would be better with this medical device - but anecdotally, it's easy to believe it would).

$200 is too much for a Windows device.

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RE: 2 hours
by ahferroin7 on Tue 23rd Jan 2018 13:18 in reply to "2 hours"
ahferroin7 Member since:
2015-10-30

Considering the hardware in question, you're not really paying for Windows, just for the hardware, and it is essentially 200 USD of hardware. The machines would likely retail for closer to 300 USD in normal circumstances when accounting for the markup from the OEM and the cost of Windows.

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RE: 2 hours
by grat on Tue 23rd Jan 2018 14:05 in reply to "2 hours"
grat Member since:
2006-02-02

Technically, it's not reinstalling the device, it's mapping that device driver to that USB port. Yes, it's a bit silly, but that's how Microsoft implemented their idea of Plug-n-Play.

Medical devices in general are some of the worst written device drivers and poorest software I have ever encountered.

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RE[2]: 2 hours
by CaptainN- on Tue 23rd Jan 2018 18:22 in reply to "RE: 2 hours"
CaptainN- Member since:
2005-07-07

The user experience is the same. It takes ages - and the feed back you get from Windows is identical to installing drivers, just from moving the damned wire from one port to another (and often I end up with multiple copies of the printer in my preferences - what even is that?!!)

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RE: 2 hours
by dionicio on Tue 23rd Jan 2018 18:53 in reply to "2 hours"
dionicio Member since:
2006-07-12

This is an ages stupidity on Windows. Ask the nurses their nail paint, and mark both male&female connectors at the back of the damn printer/scanner/device.

Next time won't be 2 hours.

-"Who's kid you said had the admin pswd?

Edited 2018-01-23 18:56 UTC

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RE[2]: 2 hours
by CaptainN- on Tue 23rd Jan 2018 18:56 in reply to "RE: 2 hours"
CaptainN- Member since:
2005-07-07

They didn't do anything wrong. The system just doesn't work well. One of the problems was that Windows had been updated the night before. They had restarted the machine, but they are unaware that with Windows, you have restart multiple times to silently finish the updates, and that it takes forever to run those updates. No user should be expected to understand the silent workings of Windows.

IT certainly deserves some blame - they tried two machines, and they were running two different versions of Windows. One was running Windows 7. None of this is the fault of the nurses, and it's entirely inappropriate to blame any of it on them.

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