Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Jan 2018 17:51 UTC

Microsoft is making a bigger push to keep students and teachers using Windows this week. At the annual Bett education show in London, Microsoft is revealing new Windows 10 and Windows 10 S devices that are priced from just $189. The software giant is also partnering with the BBC, LEGO, NASA, PBS, and Pearson to bring a variety of Mixed Reality and video curricula to schools.

Lenovo has created a $189 100e laptop. It’s based on Intel’s Celeron Apollo Lake chips, so it’s a low-cost netbook essentially, designed for schools. Lenovo is also introducing its 300e, a 2-in-1 laptop with pen support, priced at $279. The new Lenovo devices are joined by two from JP, with a Windows Hello laptop priced at $199 and a pen and touch device at $299. All four laptops will be targeted towards education, designed to convince schools not to switch to Chromebooks.

I'm not sure if these wil persuade schools away from Chromebooks, but assuming non-education customers can get them as well, they may be great little machines for running secondary operating systems on.

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RE[2]: 2 hours
by CaptainN- on Tue 23rd Jan 2018 18:22 UTC in reply to "RE: 2 hours"
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The user experience is the same. It takes ages - and the feed back you get from Windows is identical to installing drivers, just from moving the damned wire from one port to another (and often I end up with multiple copies of the printer in my preferences - what even is that?!!)

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RE[3]: 2 hours
by CaptainN- on Tue 23rd Jan 2018 18:58 in reply to "RE[2]: 2 hours"
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The real sad part of all this - is that it has actually gotten WORSE in more recent versions of Windows. Don't get me started on Windows networking...

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RE[4]: 2 hours
by grat on Wed 24th Jan 2018 04:27 in reply to "RE[3]: 2 hours"
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I disagree. I've been doing Windows desktop management since Windows 3.10, and I assure you-- it's never been this good.

The days of requiring a pretty savvy admin to repair the damage done by plugging an unknown USB device into a computer *before* the drivers were installed are largely gone.

Similarly, networking is mostly plug in play-- NDIS stacks, real mode drivers, and the pesky 3Com 3C905 driver that would only work the *second* time you installed it-- Those are in the distant past.

I honestly don't remember the last time I had a networking problem with windows that wasn't due to a hardware failure.

Outside of UI design, Windows has gone from strength to strength since Windows 7.

The caveat, here though, is the medical and scientific device community that still thinks it's writing code for Windows XP. Their drivers tend to be insecure piles of crap that require ludicrous rights, and obey none of the Windows standards.

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RE[4]: 2 hours
by avgalen on Wed 24th Jan 2018 14:20 in reply to "RE[3]: 2 hours"
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I just plugged a new printer into a usb-port. I didn't do anything and it was installed and had printed a testpage in under 30 seconds.
I moved the printer to another usb-port, it did indeed do the silly "setting up device" but it didn't do any driver installation and it printed a testpage within 15 seconds.

Now compare that to installing the driver + 10 unneeded programs from the manufacturer CD-Rom that took more than 30 minutes in the past and installed an old broken Windows 98 driver on XP.

Networking and network-printers have also greatly improved with every Windows version and since Windows 10 I can now add-and-remove 3rd party VPN software without being afraid it will break my networking.

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