Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 5th Mar 2018 22:09 UTC
Windows

While Microsoft ended mainstream support for Windows Phone 8.1 more than six months ago, there are some users that still utilize the platform as their daily driver. Although the company's overall mobile initiative isn't faring too well either, most users on older platforms are still there because they prefer it over the competition or weren't offered an upgrade path to Windows 10 Mobile.

However, it now appears that Windows Phone 8.1 users are facing some unforeseen problems with the Store - and no, it isn't regarding the dearth of apps. According to reports, people on the platform have been unable to download apps from the Store since yesterday.

While I'm sure this particular case is just some weird bug, it does highlight a real problem - what happens to a perfectly fine phone phone running a walled garden platform when its creator ceases to offer application store services? In an ideal world, such a platform would be opened up and set free, but I highly doubt that's going to happen here.

The reality will be that a lot of perfectly fine phones will end up in the trash.

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Perfectly fine?
by jnemesh on Mon 5th Mar 2018 23:36 UTC
jnemesh
Member since:
2008-04-08

Any Windows Phone ISNT "perfectly fine", and wasn't even when new! But to expect support after it's been killed is stupid. I can no longer download apps for my Palm Pre either. I saw the writing on the wall and bought into a platform that WOULD be supported! Even then, I didn't hang onto my Galaxy S Epic for years after, I bought several new phones since then. Smartphones aren't PCs and users shouldnt expect them to have any kind of life after official support for the product ends. To expect otherwise is just stupid.

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RE: Perfectly fine?
by judgen on Tue 6th Mar 2018 00:12 in reply to "Perfectly fine?"
judgen Member since:
2006-07-12

The Garnet Palm devices still gets new software from 3rd party developers.

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RE: Perfectly fine?
by Alfman on Tue 6th Mar 2018 04:19 in reply to "Perfectly fine?"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

jnermesh,

Any Windows Phone ISNT "perfectly fine", and wasn't even when new! But to expect support after it's been killed is stupid. I can no longer download apps for my Palm Pre either. I saw the writing on the wall and bought into a platform that WOULD be supported! Even then, I didn't hang onto my Galaxy S Epic for years after, I bought several new phones since then. Smartphones aren't PCs and users shouldnt expect them to have any kind of life after official support for the product ends. To expect otherwise is just stupid.


You are missing Thom's point, which isn't for manufactures support products indefinitely, but that 3rd party communities ought to be able to step in where the manufactures themselves lost interest in supporting their users. Frankly there are several open source communities that would be happy to take these old devices and provide even better support than manufacturers did. However the problem is that they're crippled by closed & vendor locked platforms with obstacles to block owner mods. Reverse engineering is extremely tedious. That's what Thom means with platforms being "opened up", and I heartily agree with him, however history shows that it's generally wishful thinking since manufacturers have no issue letting customers fall off a cliff if they choose not to buy new devices despite the fact that the hardware remains perfectly fine.

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RE[2]: Perfectly fine?
by Kochise on Tue 6th Mar 2018 05:43 in reply to "RE: Perfectly fine?"
Kochise Member since:
2006-03-03

Does the "repair bill" address the "lock in" problem ?

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RE[2]: Perfectly fine?
by shotsman on Tue 6th Mar 2018 07:06 in reply to "RE: Perfectly fine?"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

Good luck with makers allowing 3rd parties to take over when they've had enough.

Just look at the lenghts the old games makers are going to stop 3rd parties from supporting them into the future. The makers just want to shut down the game and force you to buy the next greatest shootemup rehash they are offering.

This is a part of the reason why I never got into gaming. The games makers have you over a barrel. Even more than the PC software makers with their subscriptions and forced updates...

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