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DRM is a joke
by JeffS on Sat 21st Jan 2006 18:15 UTC
JeffS
Member since:
2005-07-12

To all the anti-F/OSS, anti-RMS, anti-Linux, anti-freedom, anti-democracy, anti-consumer, and anti-competition (and anti-common sense and reason) trolls here (Lumberg, LinuxIsPoo, Smartpatrol, moleskin, et al), repeat after me ...

DRM DOES NOT STOP PIRACY!!!!!

In every case, every DRM scheme has been cracked by pirates.

The whole phenomenon is analogous to the "The Club" - ya know, that club thingy that you put on your steering wheel that was supposed to stop car theft and which car theives could easily break through in less than 30 seconds.

The pirates will always be able to crack any DRM scheme that the big corporations come up with.

Pirates laugh at DRM.

So who does DRM end up hurting? CONSUMERS!!!. DRM only ends up being a major hassle/limitation for honest consumers who purchased their content fair and square.

And RMS is right. DRM limits fair use rights. If I buy a CD, I both want and expect to be able to play it on a number of devices and my PC and an MP3 player. I also want and expect to be able to share my purchased music with my family, friends, neighbors, whatever. If I buy a book, I should be able to loan it to a friend. I should be able to loan my drill or skillsaw to my neighbor. DRM limits all of that. That is a fact.

And the only reason consumers tolerate it is because of ignorance - they usually don't realize the limitations, until they encounter it first hand (after already making the purchase), then they complain about it.

Finally, the really funny, ironic thing about DRM is that the corporations using it will only end up pissing off their customers, and shoot themselves in the foot by losing said customers to smaller, smarter, more agile competitors who are driven by customer satisfaction.

Overall CD/movie/content purchasing is way down over the last 2-3 years, and the anti-customer stance of the big corporations is the exact reason why.

It does not occur to the big corps that maybe they could increase sales by delivering a superior product to that which can be shared on the internet - ya know - a value add proposition.

But NoooOOOoooo, they go for making their product decidedly worse (by including idiotic DRM) than that which can be shared on the internet (which has no such inconveniences).

They are so short sighted and stupid it's laughable.

Edited 2006-01-21 18:33

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RE: DRM is a joke
by Lumbergh on Sat 21st Jan 2006 18:51 in reply to "DRM is a joke"
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2005-06-29

anti-Linux, anti-freedom, anti-democracy, anti-consumer, and anti-competition (and anti-common sense and reason) trolls here (Lumberg, LinuxIsPoo, Smartpatrol, moleskin, et al), repeat after me .

Yeah, thanks for pointing out that I'm anti-freedom, anti-democracy, anti-consumer, anti-competition....You just prove the point about how brain damaged you idiots really are.

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RE: DRM is a joke
by tomcat on Sat 21st Jan 2006 19:07 in reply to "DRM is a joke"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

DRM DOES NOT STOP PIRACY!!!!!

In every case, every DRM scheme has been cracked by pirates.


DRM isn't supposed to "STOP PIRACY". That's impossible (so you can stop flogging your straw man now). What it's designed to do is increase the cost and hassle to the average person sufficiently that they will choose to conform with the manufacturers' copyright. For example, the average person has no idea how to copy DVDs or pirate cable TV; in order to do that,they have to turn to people who have made it their mission to crack DRM. But not everybody is going to be willing to use cracking software or buy pirate cable boxes because (a) it's illegal and carries steep penalties, (b) it's a hassle, (c) the actual cost of DVDs is pretty low (it's not difficult to find DVD's for $8 or $9 now, so unless your time is worth less than that amount, you're actually wasting money by pirating DVDs), and (d) there are usually quality trade-offs (video artifacts, loss of features, etc) involved in going from mastered media to DVD+/-R that many people will not accept.

Overall CD/movie/content purchasing is way down over the last 2-3 years, and the anti-customer stance of the big corporations is the exact reason why.

It has nothing to do with the "anti-customer stance of the big corporations". It has to do with the fact that CDs lacked DRM -- and ripping is so laughably simple.

But NoooOOOoooo, they go for making their product decidedly worse (by including idiotic DRM) than that which can be shared on the internet (which has no such inconveniences). They are so short sighted and stupid it's laughable.

Here's a fact that blows your argument to shreds: DVD sales have exploded over the past 5 years, despite the fact that they contain DRM.

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RE[2]: DRM is a joke
by Wrawrat on Sat 21st Jan 2006 19:31 in reply to "RE: DRM is a joke"
Wrawrat Member since:
2005-06-30

Here's a fact that blows your argument to shreds: DVD sales have exploded over the past 5 years, despite the fact that they contain DRM.

Just a precision: relatively few DVDs are including DRM, while most DVDs for the customer market are including an encryption system (CSS) providing some protection against copying.

Out of memory, only WMA9 DVDs have DRM schemes on them.

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RE[2]: DRM is a joke
by JeffS on Mon 23rd Jan 2006 17:15 in reply to "RE: DRM is a joke"
JeffS Member since:
2005-07-12

"What it's designed to do is increase the cost and hassle to the average person sufficiently that they will choose to conform with the manufacturers' copyright. "

The thing is, the average consumer is not a problem to the manufacturers. They are not losing revenue because some occasionally downloads something, or just wants to play their CD in their car stereo. Besides, apparently (according to market research) the biggest downloaders also tend to be the biggest purchasers of music/movies. So in all reality, the manufacturers are not, or should not be, worried about causal file sharing.

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