Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 20th Feb 2006 12:22 UTC, submitted by Rahul
X11, Window Managers Updated: Fedora was right in the middle of announcing all this properly, so here is the updated item containing the official names. Videos included, as well as the inevitable 'Why not Xgl?'. "AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. We have a lightly modified X server (that includes a couple of extensions), an updated Mesa package that adds some new protocol support and a version of metacity with a composite manager. The end result is that you can use GL effects on your desktop with very few changes, the ability to turn it on and off at will, and you don't have to replace your X server in the process." This is part of Fedora's Rendering Project, and instructions on how to install all this are available too.
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RE[2]: Not Invented Here
by poofyhairguy on Mon 20th Feb 2006 22:02 UTC in reply to "Not Invented Here"
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Novell went for faster implementation to get the same result and RH went for more politicaly correct implementation where even Novells solution could still reside with not so many modifications but suddenly with a politicaly correct status and the same effect.

Isn't the community great? Political correctness and politics matter more than what is done. Until Redhat fixes huge problems with their framework (and add a LOT of stuff to Metacity) then XGL+ Compiz is the better solution. Its more stable for me than any other composite manager so far, and I REALLY try to find bugs. Who cares what makes the Gnome developers sleep better at night?

In the end result should be the same as now with Compiz+GLX, except everything should "Just work" instead of "Maybe if you're lucky" like it is now

XGL + Compiz now works on far more cards than Redhat's Metacity compositor does. It doesn't have problems with video playing like the Metacity compositor (and all other compositors) does. If work was poured into XGL it would be ready by next year. A year's worth of work on the Redhat framework is whats needed to catch them up to what XGL + Compiz can do today.

Of course, Gnome might go the Redhat route since its run by a bunch of no-fun traditionalists. Thank god for KDE4 which will take David's work on the XGL and run with it. If Gnome goes the Redhat route than the tradition of Metacity being the more boring major window manager will continue!

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RE[3]: Not Invented Here
by Pfeifer on Mon 20th Feb 2006 23:29 in reply to "RE[2]: Not Invented Here"
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Believe it or not - a actually _want_ a boring window manager. Really. I want my window manager to be as boring and unobstrusive as possible - because I want my work done.

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RE[3]: Not Invented Here
by rockmen1 on Tue 21st Feb 2006 10:44 in reply to "RE[2]: Not Invented Here"
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I agree.Why Linux Desktop progress so slowly,I think the community is doing to much disgussion on the architecture rather than making things actually done.

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RE[4]: Not Invented Here
by Ookaze on Tue 21st Feb 2006 14:58 in reply to "RE[3]: Not Invented Here"
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Why Linux Desktop progress so slowly,I think the community is doing to much disgussion on the architecture rather than making things actually done

You are wrong. While users uselessly argue, developers are actually doing work.
But the fact is that right now, none of the solutions works really and can replace anything, unless you want to restrict yourself, and want to use developement code.
None of these can replace my current XOrg with multiple simultaneous sessions of Gnome, KDE, XFce. None of these can work reliably with the binary NVidia cards, and none allow me to look at accelerated (overlay) videos with NVidia cards. None of these compositors work with KDE either.
And still, people here argue about code that are not even stable yet. I mean, some people love to whine and argue.

My POV is that people loved to argue that Vista was years ahead (even though it's not even out), forgetting Mac OS X, and now we have 2 big projects that just shows that FOSS, as always, never stopped going forward while people were disparaging it. Because now, we have at least 2 big projects that are very promising. That some people prefer one or another is irrelevant, you have the choice to install one, the other, both or none.

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