A FreeBSD status report has been posted. Highlights for 5.4 include CARP support, Initial JDK 1.5.0 support, cpufreq(8), plus more. Highlights for 6.0 include OpenBSD pf v37 import, Proposed journalling support for UFS, IPv6 support fo IPFW, and more.
scottl@:
will the integration of gcc 4.0 be ready for the 6.0-release?
As someone who has contributed to GCC 4.0.0 and routinely
builds gcc 4.x on i386-*-freebsd and amd64-*-freebsd, I
would not recommend an update of the system compiler to
4.0.0. Install it from the ports collection and use at
will, but not as the system compiler.
That would be nice, but I doubt it.
so many things are going on there.
thanks to all who made this happen
The decision to support the 4.x branch till 2007 will tie up ressources for a long time. Wouldn’t it be easier to drop that branch next year and allow developers to concentrate on the 5.x and 6.x branches ?
“The decision to support the 4.x branch till 2007 will tie up ressources for a long time. Wouldn’t it be easier to drop that branch next year and allow developers to concentrate on the 5.x and 6.x branches ?”
Supporting 4.x branch until 2007 does not mean that the FreeBSD team will include new features, drivers, etc. Support only means that they will include security fixes and major bug fixes. Seeing how 4.x is rock solid, I don’t see either bugs or security being major resource drains on the project.
When they drop support for 4.x, they’ll lose probably half their user base. 5.x still isn’t ready for production use, and many of the admins I know (myself included), have decided to eschew 5.x, and move to NetBSD or DragonFlyBSD.
Having to redo many machines because they stop providing bugfixes and security updates would make me even less likely to eventually move to 5.x.
They won’t lose half their userbase. Major providers (inetu comes to mind for instance) already shifted to 5.3, and with 5.4 there will be little or no incentive to stay with the 4.x branch. 5.x is ready for production use, and the gotchas present in 5.3 have been resolved and even if some remained, consulting the errata could have helped in deciding whether 5.3 was for you or not.
5.4 will be a very fine release, so stop trolling – in 2007 no one will use 4.x.
It’s somewhat embarrassing that FreeBSD gets Java 5 before the Mac does.
Even though I prefer DragonflyBSD’s design, FreeBSD is stronger than ever!
5.4 will be a very fine release, so stop trolling – in 2007 no one will use 4.x.
5.4 better be a very fine release, because 5.3 would have to improve to suck. I realize that nobody will be using 4.x in 2007, but my point is that if the devels don’t get 5.x up to 4.x’s quality, fewer people will be using freebsd in 2007, period. If they cut 4.x support before 5.x reaches release quality, people are going to look elsewhere.
If they cut 4.x support before 5.x reaches release quality, people are going to look elsewhere.
Aint gonna happen. Support for 4.11 will continue until 2007 and 6 is scheduled to be released later this year. Why 6 so soon? Because development is going faster now that the irks of the new subsystems are gone and more subsystems have come out from Giant since 5-stable => better performance.
In fact, it’s looking better than ever.
Did you REALLY test 5.3 on supported hardware or are you using others “trollings” as facts. 5.3 is sofar the best release yet and 5.4 is looking even better.
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Did you REALLY test 5.3 on supported hardware or are you using others “trollings” as facts. 5.3 is sofar the best release yet and 5.4 is looking even better.”
Yes. not good as previous releases. the 5.x series has far too many rough edges
Yes, I tried it on several different machines and had various problems, depending upon the machine. I have a few compaq servers where I can’t even get 5.3 to boot, because it hangs on the keyboard controller.
Also got hard locks trying to use pf+vlan on another machine, where NetBSD handled it without a problem.
Sound on my notebook works under 4.x, but not under 5.x. Power management on same worked with 5.1, but hasn’t since (including 5.3). Short of changing the ACPI table, I can’t make it work (but Linux handles it fine as-is).
And that’s not even going into the sheer amount of hardware that’s still giant locked (aforementioned at and ps/2 keyboard, many NICs), or the scheduler……
I wonder why one would say that nobody uses 4.x ??
5.x provides hardly anything, that cant be done under 4.x (which is even more solid at least because ot its age).
Mailing lists are full of minor (and some major) annoyances of 5.3/5.4. 4.11 has a way fewer problem (and dont say, that because only SOME users installed it)
I’ve just read through all of the improvements, somehow it seems to me that FreeBSD will (or does) deliver and exceed what OpenSolaris promises.
I wonder why one would say that nobody uses 4.x ??
Errmm.. did you read my post carefully? I spoke of two years from now (2007). First 6.0 release is due late summer this year, by 2007 it will be the next stable branch
5.x provides a lot of things, especially on multiple cpu machines. It has a correct native threading library now (no need for linuxthreads for mysql like in 4.x). Devfs is another improvement, and so is the new geom subsystem. I see little reason for stay with 4.x now that 5.4 is pretty stable (except for the last remaining show stopper issue, but useful debug info was hard to obtain, and 5.4 isn’t going to be released until this is fixed. otoh that issue affects you only if you have 4+ CPUs).
Anonymous (IP: unused) wrote:
“Yes. not good as previous releases. the 5.x series has far too many rough edges”
Are you, by any chance, the Anonymous (IP: 61.95.184.—) to which this old thread is referring?
http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=9165&limit=no#313748
I’m asking because you use the same quoting style – and, at least here on osnews, it’s pretty unique.
That guy was caught blatantly spreading FUD over *BSD. So, I’d like to know if you are the same person in order to evaluate the honesty of your statement.
Thanks in advance if you have the courtesy of answering my question.