“Novell today announced SUSE Linux 10.0 will be available in retail and online stores in early October 2005. SUSE Linux 10.0 is uniquely designed among Linux distributions to create an easy, user-friendly experience, delivering everything that enthusiasts and home users need to get started with Linux.” This release is the first to recieve input from the OpenSUSE project.
Looking forward to trying it out.
BTW first post!
This isn’t Slashdot my man. No need to gloat you had the first post.
Does that mean it will work with my Linksys wireless card?
it probably already works with your Linksys wireless card. 😉
it does not work with any wireless cards at all out the box.
Try again.
For me both SUSE 9.3 and 10.0 beta 4 worked fine “out of the box2 with my intel ipw2200 wireless card. On my old laptop a netgear card (was equally well supported with madwifi driver on SUSE 9.3).
Beta 3 had some bug with the init scripts such that they didn’t work (but the bug is fixed by now.)
I’m really exited about SUSE 10. The beta I tried felt much snappier than SUSE 9.3 (e.g. working with KDE, starting YAST2) – I’ve no idea how they’ve done that. Boot time was reduced (a lot, but there’s never a fast enough 😉 and for the first time suspend to disk worked on my laptop!
Yours,
Stefan
The beta I tried felt much snappier than SUSE 9.3 (e.g. working with KDE, starting YAST2) – I’ve no idea how they’ve done that.
gcc 4.0.
In contrast to the 3.3 version used in 9.3 it supports symbol hiding, which reduces the workload for the dynamic linker and therefore reduces startup times.
I’m guessing that the preload that they added from the openSUSE SUPER project ( http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/SUPER_standard_benchmark ) is also doing his thing. Just check the benchmarks!
I can confirm it too, openSUSE 10 beta 4 in vmware with 192mb ram boots 30s faster than Suse 9.3 in the ‘real’ hardware, with 512mb (at least for me).
Tilt! Sorry, but it probably does work with some cards. SuSE 9.3 works with my US Robotics wireless card just fine, thank you.
Insert coin to play again. 😉
My laptop’s wireless card worked out of the box (ipw2200 chipset, intel centrino). Please, stop lying.
Currently running SUSE Linux 9.3 LAN with the DWL-G520 WiFi card from http://www.dlink.com
Is it going to be possible to upgrade from the betas or rc’s to the final version? I didn’t understand yet if it is going to be available for free download or not…
It’s my understanding that there will be a free download of the entire distro, sans the normal “extra” stuff that SUSE provides on the commercial one…which would be some of the non-opensource non GPL things like Adobe reader, java, flash, NON-GPL modules, and a comple of commercial apps that they put in.
However, MOST of that stuff is easily gotten anyway and added to the free version….
The other difference is the commerical sold one will come with the standard support where the free download version will not have any support.
I’m opting for the free download because they already have apt repositories for the “extra” and “java” stuff.
can’t wait. *grins*
http://www.infoconomy.com/pages/news-and-gossip/group109651.adp
“An analyst from Credit Suisse First Boston (CSFB), the banking arm of investment group Credit Suisse, has demanded that management at software maker Novell take drastic action to address its continuing dismal performance.”
“An analyst from Credit Suisse First Boston (CSFB), the banking arm of investment group Credit Suisse, has demanded that management at software maker Novell take drastic action to address its continuing dismal performance.”
Not good. But at least those bankers do like Linux:
“The letter outlined four key steps to improve Novell’s fortunes: new management, cost cuts, focusing more on Linux and share buybacks.”
LMMFAO………. Three out of four being totally impossible ain’t bad….. I guess….
“Novell today announced SUSE Linux 10.0 will be available in retail and online stores in early October 2005.”
So doesn’t that mean the title should be “Novell announces release date of SUSE Linux 10.0”? “availability” kinda implies that it’s out now…
“Among the numerous new and updated features are the Beagle desktop search engine and Amarok with MP3 support out of the box.”
I hope we’ll soon have full DVD support out-of-box too. Could take some time, but this is seriously a huge step to even more user-friendly Linux experience.
Amarok with MP3 support out of the box.”
Great news, but how come they don’t have to rely on RealPlayer for MP3 support anymore? Did the legal problems go away?
Thomson owns (though there is some dispute on that, it is still widely held to be valid) the patent on MP3 technology. Looking through their site on licensing: http://www.mp3licensing.com/index.html you can read through the various terms and some of the Q&A section yourself.
It seems to me that they allow private home use of MP3, but anything that is/could be commercial or public in nature coudl require a license. I believe that OpenSUSE cannot satisfactorily determine that all useage of their product would fall under the “personal” use, and they likely don’t want to put themselves at risk of lawsuit. However, for their “pay for” version of SUSE 10.0, they may very well have contacted Thomson and negotiated a license rate (which they can have controlled numbers of sales and royalties).
Just my guess, I have no inside information or contacts at Novell.
I believe that OpenSUSE cannot satisfactorily determine that all useage of their product would fall under the “personal” use, and they likely don’t want to put themselves at risk of lawsuit. However, for their “pay for” version of SUSE 10.0, they may very well have contacted Thomson and negotiated a license rate (which they can have controlled numbers of sales and royalties).
For the “pay for” version they can’t determine either what it’s gonna be used for or how often it’s going to be copied, since Kaffeine is under GPL.
But you could still be right. Perhaps Thomson accepted that situation and agreed some licensing deal anyway.
Turbolinux 10 F… comes with full DVD, Windows Media, etc. support out of the box, legally. It is the only distro that ships with PowerDVD for Linux.
http://www.turbolinux.com/products/10F/
The software in it is a bit dated though, but it is still reveiving updates.
Turbolinux 10 F… comes with full DVD, Windows Media, etc. support out of the box, legally. It is the only distro that ships with PowerDVD for Linux.
http://www.turbolinux.com/products/10F/
The software in it is a bit dated though, but it is still reveiving updates.
After years of using linux, I’d like a distro that tries to bring the whole thing forward. Getting started is, well, so last century…
I run debian sid, and pretty much everything works except wine, and dreadfully organised menus. I wish Novell was a wee bit more ambitious.
So, who has a link to a good “how-to” site detailing setting up repos and using yast from the command line? i installes the 10 beta, but couldn’t figure out/find easily info on repo setup, etc. I also much prefer command linue utils like apt-get or yum over synaptic, yumex, etc. I’d love to give suse a try, but don’t feel like spending two months just learing how to add repos/packages.
“I’d love to give suse a try, but don’t feel like spending two months just learing how to add repos/packages.”
First of all, I have good news for you: SUSE 10.0 comes with apt available from the media (and synaptic as well, for those who like it)
You can find some info about setting up apt for SUSE here:
http://forums.linuxiso.org/viewtopic.php?t=10676&start=117
Read also the following posts. Understandably it has not been updated for SUSE 10 yet, but this is my source list:
_________________________________________
# Repository created by: aptate (version 0.69.2)
# At: Fri Aug 26 21:21:35 MEST 2005
# More info about aptate at: http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net
#rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/10.0-i386 base security extra java packman packman-i686 suse-people suse-projects suser-guru suser-jengelh suser-tux usr-local-bin update wine
rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/10.0-i386 base security extra java update
__________________________________________
The second line should be reasonably safe for a dist-upgrade. The first line allows you to find all the extra goodies.
To stay current and see if extra components have been added, visit this site:
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.0-i386/
Avoid the component “kernel-of-the-day”
I am assuming that you are using i386. If you are using x86_64, make a few changes accordingly.
That’s nice, while people are enjoying version 10 of OpenSuse, I’m still waiting for Novell to send me a free 9.3 Pro Eval disc like they said they would in their e-mail. How many weeks does it take to send a damn disc anyway?
Little under 2 weeks for me (Netherlands)
It’s been available on their server for a while now and easily accessible. If you’re concerned about a long download then suggest purchasing the distribution.
http://www.novell.com/products/linuxprofessional/downloads/suse_lin…
Where is the free version of their directory services? RedHat is already a better Linux than SuSE. Just wish that the cool stuff were open. Oh well, soon we’ll have RedHat Directory Services.
Where is the free version of their directory services? RedHat is already a better Linux than SuSE. Just wish that the cool stuff were open. Oh well, soon we’ll have RedHat Directory Services.
Let’s not get greedy. Netware’s directory and management services are their crown jewel, they won’t give it away, particularly when a lot of companies are still willing to pay for it. Linux was frankly just a method of extending Netware’s reach and increasing (restoring?) it’s relevance.
Is the virusscanner installed and active by default?
Does it scan on-access?
I’m still trying to find out how to get aac support for suse 9.3 for the songs I rip with itunes… I don’t have those cds with me, so I can’t re-rip them to mp3 format…
mplayer with the latest codecs.
The price is going to be very competitive, especially if you pay in US Dollars.
I understand you’ll get the usual box with plenty of goodies: CDs, DVDs, printed manuals…
They are going to be really tough competitors for the few commercial distros left. I can think only of Mandriva, Linspire, Xandros, Libranet.
I couldn’t get LDAP working on 9.3, because they shipped it with the newer, broken version of BDB.
Reportedly Cyrus was broken by this too. So I switched back to Debian, which I’ve always found to be solid as a a rock for server use.
Novell/SuSE can’t possibly have tested LDAP before shipping 9.3.
Hmm…
I’ve got 9.3 here at work and it’s LDAP’d w/no issues. RH was a pain in butt to get configured for LDAP. SuSE 9.3 was basically “Next -> Next -> Finish”.
Hope 10.0 works better for you.
John
I have seen the feature list and must say it’s pretty impressive.Even a lite version of Immunix AppArmor is included.Now a GUI front-end to SuSE fw2 that let’s you configure even very advanced settings and a virusscanner (antivir?) that’s enabled by default and scans on access and they are on their way of best of breed Linux.