Home > macOS > What goes into making an OS to be Unix compliant certified? What goes into making an OS to be Unix compliant certified? Thom Holwerda 2022-01-19 macOS 16 Comments A lot.I was the tech lead at Apple for making Mac OS X pass UNIX certification, and it was done to get Apple out of a $200M lawsuit filed by The Open Group, for use of the UNIX trademark in advertising. Fascinating bit of history. About The Author Thom Holwerda Follow me on Mastodon @firstname.lastname@example.org 16 Comments 2022-01-19 8:44 pm bradleytompkins Is it just me or is the link kind of busted. Only the “t” has a hyperlink for me. I haven’t logged in for 5-6 years and when I finally do it’s to complain about a busted link lol, sorry. 2022-01-19 9:23 pm sukru And another hidden hero: But I expect we contributed about two million lines of code, to hundreds of Open Source projects, over the course of that year. A lot of gratitude — but it wasn’t collective, and so Apple was still faulted for “using Open Source code, but never contributing back”. We fixed at least 15 major gcc bugs, for example. You have no idea. Microsoft has many books and blogs documenting their journeys (The Old New Thing, Showstopper!), or their spinoffs (Fog Creek Software/StackExchange/Trello). It would be nice to learn more about histories of Apple and other giants. One random story of how a single engineer essentially ported Mac OS to Intel from PPC: https://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/10/a-bit-of-history-behind-the-mac-os-x-on-intel-project-marklar/ 2022-01-20 12:29 am malxau > One random story of how a single engineer essentially ported Mac OS to Intel from PPC: https://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/10/a-bit-of-history-behind-the-mac-os-x-on-intel-project-marklar/ I think the first comment on that site nailed it. I was at WWDC 2000 and attended a session where they proudly showed Darwin booting on x86 and gave us Darwin x86 CDs, almost a year before OS X 10.0 was released. That’s not the entire OS of course, but it’s not trivial either: it meant the core and development tools were in place. As the comment said, the fact that Apple had OS X for x86 wasn’t secret, the secret part was deciding when and how to migrate their customers to it. 2022-01-19 9:50 pm Anonymous I’d like to think we all agree standards matter. Browsing through this I notice mention of Karen Crippes who was described as an “amazing engineer”. Women are always described as “amazing” just for turning up or being a “strong woman” simply for not having a meltdown. The reason why I object to those terms is, as an analysis of the overall article suggests, is men rate not rank. That’s an important distinction as is how this rating is constructed and discussed. From one end to the other the article is building technical authority on top of technical authority. Yes I know women use the terms “amazing” and “strong woman” all the time but I always get the feeling men’s eyes glaze over. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/19/is-midnight-upon-us-doomsday-clock-panel-to-set-risk-of-global-catastrophe The Doomsday Clock image was originally the work of Martyl Langsdorf, a noted abstract landscape artist of the era, whose husband, Alexander, was a physicist on the Manhattan Project. When he and his anxious colleagues decided to turn their mimeographed internal newsletter into a magazine in 1947, they turned to her to design the cover of the new Bulletin. She reckoned she was “the only artist they knew”. This isn’t a surprise as men tend to operate within silos. https://thebulletin.org/2013/04/science-art-and-the-legacy-of-martyl/ Martyl Langsdorf, the artist who created the Doomsday Clock, died on March 26th at the age of 96 in Chicago. Known to many friends and fans simply as Martyl, she was a petite and vivacious woman who had an outsize influence on public consciousness about nuclear weapons through her design of the clock that first graced the cover of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists in 1947, and continues to be used today. Women are always written about in terms of personality and relationships and the mechanics of women’s work is rarely ever discussed. If you read through this article from one end to the other you will notice how it is completely different to the Quora post. The February 1959 issue, titled “Science and Art” and co-edited by Martyl and University of Chicago metallurgy professor Cyril Stanley Smith, drew an explicit connection. In the introductory essay, they compared the work of artists to that of scientists, suggesting that “the artist is concerned principally with complex relationships and depends on active participation of his audience in developing the pattern,” while the scientist lays out results with simple precision so that the audience can understand an aspect of the world. To this day, the Bulletin seeks participation by scientists, artists, writers, policy makers, and interested citizens to lead an intelligent debate about the mind-numbing, often horrifying, problems of nuclear and climate change catastrophe. To move past the numbness and provoke action, the Bulletin draws on art and design to create new ways of feeling, just as it taps science for new ways of knowing. In large measure, this is Martyl’s legacy. This is very true and why it is important to read widely and understand the personal and artistic as much as the technical. So overall? It’s a pretty big project to get compliance. And that before all the things that Karen did, on the self-certification, contracts, getting test exception based on existing exception for OSF/1 Mach, and so on. It was, indeed, a long slog. Oh Karen finally gets a mention. How lucky! What I find interesting about this article isn’t the technical stuff but the initial lack of consideration for standards and the failure to check the implementation met the standard. This isn’t unique to IT. What puzzles me is why organisations often fail to do this and often in their rush to become standards compliant they somehow still fail to meet the standard. IT is normally straightforward due in part to its very structural nature and relatively limited and linear data inputs and outputs. Yet when you get onto none technical stuff like human rights and equality or accommodating disabled people suddenly you run into a go slow of confusion and kicking the can down the road. In a world largely run by men with systems designed by men I find the psycho-social reasons for this puzzling. It’s like men “get” car engines but anything which isn’t a stack of mostly male created rules or male priorities or fits within male perception doesn’t get anywhere near top management buy in. I’m not a wimp but I find working around men can be a bit scary. The way men’s ego explodes and they charge around like a bull in a china shop to get stuff “done”? Then they lose interest and don’t check that things are standards compliant hence the original lawsuit. Why can’t people get it right the first time? It’s not about being perfectionist. It’s about being careful. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/19/business/5g-aviation-safety-europe/index.html Europe rolled out 5G without hurting aviation. Here’s how Be careful. 2022-01-20 3:38 am enor_moose What kind of “scary men ego” was behind all the Elizabeth Holmes’ decisions? Can you elaborate on that? PS. You need therapy for misandry. Acceptance is the first step. 2022-01-20 11:33 am kurkosdr Dude is a male troll with a history of trolling, usually with a series of posts centered around a common “theme” (and then he moves to another theme). This is his latest theme. 2022-01-20 11:46 am Anonymous We all know your are a libertarian contrarian and nasty piece of work. Screen photo taken, page saved offline, and incident logged. 2022-01-20 3:44 pm dekernel Man, I wish I was on @HollyB double, super-secret probation list. 2022-01-20 9:19 pm Under-phil Yeah, I figured as much. Just don’t feed it and it’ll go away. 2022-01-21 1:18 am Anonymous I’m still reeling that someone would say that. Could some of you learn some manners and stop your unfiltered therapy issues? Also enough of the random drive by attacks from people I have never seen before. I’m the troll? Wow. Misdirection and victim blaming. If I’m honest the content on this site bores me. It’s too narrow like you never read anything beyond tech forums. I don’t hide that. I also don’t like the office politics or rampant aggression. I do everything I can to avoid that. In fact in professional contexts offline I’m requesting to be nowhere near men. Almost all of you here are men and have no idea about sexism in the workplace. Not a single one of you called out an off colour and unsolicited sexual comment from one person here. Address the content, learn to express yourself, and develop some empathy. If you don’t like what I’ saying or have no interest move on. If you have an emotional problem with it maybe ask yourself why? 2022-01-21 9:40 am Alfman HollyB, Could some of you learn some manners and stop your unfiltered therapy issues? … Address the content, learn to express yourself, and develop some empathy. If you don’t like what I’ saying or have no interest move on. If you have an emotional problem with it maybe ask yourself why? Right back at you. If I’m honest the content on this site bores me. This is a tech site and actual women in tech are welcome here, but if you don’t like tech that’s really not our problem. 2022-01-21 2:00 pm dekernel @HollyB To be honest, many of us (and I might be speaking for them when I shouldn’t so I do apologize) are getting tired of your constant subject change to sexism for many of your comments. Here, let us take this article as an example. The topic is how Apple’s development team had to react to a major marketing issue. Personally, I felt the article was both informative and entertaining, but that is just me. You, however, took one sentence and ran with your favorite subject of sexism as you seemingly always do. Then when someone calls you a troll for attempting to change the subject to what you want it to be, you go full-throttle and insult them. You then claim you took a screen photo, saved the page (for whatever reason) and then logged the incident (whatever that means). Are you a troll in the current internet world, probably not, BUT, you do follow a trolling pattern of attempting to deviate a conversation from the topic at hand to something you think it should be. The best part is that then you say that “…If I’m honest, the content of this site bore me.”. Well, since you are a heavy commenter here, that kinda says something about you now doesn’t it. 2022-01-21 6:24 pm Anonymous I write to please me. If you have any problems with that leave them at the door. As for the individual in particular who thought they’d take a stab and others bandwagonning and trying to incite flamewars for the past week or two please do note I am ignoring them. And yes tech does bore me. I’m way past being excited by feature creep or yet another specification extension or API call. It’s history and context and a variety of subjects both of direct and indirect relevance and social discussion and creativity which interests me. Tech is tech and sure it has an interest in itself but if that’s all it is then it’s boring. I no longer do development or code. What I have does what I need. I don’t need to fill my brain with useless information so I look around the context to see what else interests me. As for sexism, well, men don’t experience it as men are the default following men’s interests which appeal to other men. Don’t be oafs and don’t troll me and I might shut up about it. Actually, I probably won’t. I’m still going to comment when I want to but you must also realise I probably read 10-100x what you do on the subject along with other subjects because I don’t spend my life with my head in tech manuals. Many women 30+ go from development to HR for a lot of reasons similar to how higher income women work part time. It’s different priorities. That gets into developmental psychology. So while men are obsessing tech the world and their own personalities and society are changing around them. How you interrelate, express yourself, and manage yourself doesn’t just impact quality of life but teamwork and also quality of outcomes which, yes, does feed back into tech. There’s no point being burned out or miserable or stale. I’m not making an argument here. You agree or disagree, find something useful in it or don’t. I’m simply sharing my perspective. I also write a lot and can bang out a whole page without thinking about it. I don’t necessarily care if you read it or not. Sometimes I’m thinking aloud and just trotting through a lot of things in my mind just because. 2022-01-21 6:56 pm Alfman HollyB, And yes tech does bore me. I’m way past being excited by feature creep or yet another specification extension or API call. I no longer do development or code. What I have does what I need. I don’t need to fill my brain with useless information so I look around the context to see what else interests me. You should take your own advice and go find content that interest you rather than being a troll here. Seriously if you don’t like tech, then this is the wrong place for you. As for sexism, well, men don’t experience it as men are the default following men’s interests which appeal to other men. You’ve been more sexist and nasty towards us than any of us have been towards you. You probably want somebody to be sexist towards you just so you can retroactively justify all your stereotypes, but that hasn’t happened. The rest of us are here because we actually like discussing technology. So why are you here? I’ve been willing to give you a benefit of doubt despite being attacked by you but I’m starting to agree with others that you’re just here to troll every article with sexist rants. 2022-01-20 11:56 am Anonymous https://www.salon.com/2021/11/30/ghislaine-maxwells-and-elizabeth-holmes-fake-feminist-defenses-are-an-insult-to-metoo/ Both cases definitely underscore feminist arguments about how gender is more of a performance than a biological reality. But both defenses are depending on jurors not getting that, and instead assuming that women are inherently less capable than men. Will it work? Time will only tell, but there’s good reason for feminists to hope it won’t. Women’s equality doesn’t just mean accepting that women are equal to men in intelligence and competence. It also means accepting that a small percentage of women, like a small percentage of men, use those skills for bad purposes. Feminism is not well-served by the stereotype of women as hapless children who can’t be assumed responsible for their own behavior. The trials of Holmes and Maxwell will serve as an interesting test of whether or not this more nuanced view of what women’s equality truly means has sunk in with the public. Feminism and playing the woman card are not the same thing. I note almost all of you are entirely absent from the Activision topic and have nothing to say unless it’s gassing about property prices. Not one single one of you has commented on, produced any interesting links, or demonstrated any self awareness if you even both reading news on equality and women’s issues or human rights in general. As for my earlier comment I don’t think it is just a man problem but an American problem. America is really not a careful country and far too macho. I suspect the two are linked. Read some books, read around the topic, and get off your tech totem pole. 2022-01-20 3:26 pm mail4asim This was a very interesting read. Plus the comments from the author to people’s questions, provide some really neat details about the inner workings at Apple and in software companies overall.