Microsoft used the annual Mobile & Embedded DevCon to announce the availability of a beta release of Windows CE 6, the next generation of its real-time software used to build customized operating systems for devices such as internet protocol set-top-boxes, Global Positioning System-based devices, and industrial automation and medical devices. With a redesigned operating system kernel architecture, expanded capacity for simultaneous processes (up to 32000) and newly integrated tool set, Windows CE 6 promises help device makers more quickly create devices that support a range of applications for high-demand categories.
[/i]the next generation of its real-time software[/i]
Is this real-time like QNX is or is it a play on words?
real time like qnx. and hopefully this one will be as fun to use or play with. i have qnx up and running on one of my x86 box’s but getting ce 5.0 uo wight a nightmear.
What’s really interesting about this announcement is how little interest it’s getting, at least on this site. 56 comments and counting on the three news items around it, and only 2 about this one.
Of course, now I expect there’ll be a flurry of comments agreeing, disagreeing, or attempting to prove or disprove my point!
I disagree!
How could I pass on an invitation like that?
rotfl.
How many people on here do you suppose have mobile devices? And how many do you suppose buy a new one when a new system is released for them?
Absolutely no idea, however there is much more interest in the other mobile device just mentioned on the site.
Oops! not any more!
can i update my dreamcast??? lol
Can’t they just give it up? The PDA market has been dead for at least a half-decade.
But on the other hand, the smartphone market is booming…
Oh no! Whatever shall I do with my “dead PDA” that I use to access OSNews wirelessly while in the house, put movies onto for my daughter when we travel, keep track of my many appointments; where oh where will I find software to help me in my (medical career) and how will I *ever* play MP3’s that won’t skip because they’re on a hard drive?
You’re absolutely right-I *want* to pay several hundred dollars for a combined Phone-PDA that locks me to one specific carrier-not matter how crummy they are…
Oh wait… were we talking about a dead market?
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I have to admit that -regardless of if it is true or just a subjective view- after years of running Win OSes of many kinds, if my life was depending on a MS powered medical device I would be freaking out… 0_o
Microsoft heart and lung machine with Windows CE 6
Hopefully that means processes bigger than 32mb! This has been a bit annoying in CE. OTOH CE is cheap as hell ot license compared to real windows.
FWIW Its not just PDA’s its embeded devices, that is a big market but its largely silent. Lots of stuff that runs CE doesnt make a big deal of it.
One of the things that I thought hurt it the most was the complete lack of a W3C compliant browser. Doesn’t say if that’s fixed.
Which ones have you tried? I’ve never really used my PocketPC for web browsing other than “proof-of-concept” just to see that it can be done.
Your comment made me go Googling, and apparently there’s a version of Opera for Windows Mobile, including PocketPCs. I generally think Opera is better than IE when it comes to standards.
IE5 at the time was the only browser for WinCE. It did not pass muster.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
Minimo is far from done, and not very resource friendly.
Minimo is a giant resource hog. It’s almost as slow and bloated as Mozilla suite — there’s no way in hell it’s anywhere near usable on smaller hardware.
But the fundamentalists don’t care about performance or stability or performance or standards, do they? Just the Mozilla name makes them cum in their pants.
I used the .98 mozilla embedded GTK widget to meet the W3C spec requirement. MiniMO looks great, thanks.
WinCE is more for smart phone and set top boxes.One is going not going to use it for hard real time or deeply embedded stuff; that’s the province of QNX because WinCE cannot be slimmed down to the size requirements.
Are you serious? WinCE can be stripped down as much as you want.
And then on top of that you, have Windows Embedded which is completely modular and you can add and remove whatever you want even finer than CE.
WinCE is more for smart phone and set top boxes.One is going not going to use it for hard real time or deeply embedded stuff; that’s the province of QNX because WinCE cannot be slimmed down to the size requirements.
Ummmmm, no. Wrong. Believe it or not, WinCE is one of the most widely deployed embedded OS on the market today. Read this:
http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3435501
Apparently, WinCE is much more modular than many people think.
http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3435501
Yeah, yeah, I know. Vote down this post. It’s not like we’d want anybody to actually learn anything about the reality of the embedded market or anything.
That may have even been valid 3 years ago if it wasn’t from an MS shill in a high tech space that’s exploding exponentially at the speed of light. There is a name for old data.
I’ve been using WinCE on an industrial display project in an extreme environment for over 4 years. It’s never failed or complained. Can’t argue with that really. Not to mention EVC is a great tool, and beats all other embedded IDE / BSPs we have in my place of work, hands down no contest.
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The voting system on this site is totally broken. People are using it solely to silence opposing viewpoints.
I have to agree with you on that. It is a shame. It should be more like Slashdot: you cannot mod in a topic you posted in. I don’t mind opposing viewpoints as long as they aren’t trolls or fanboys.